Migrant hotels in rural locations.

[essex man]

immigrants are not humans?
Or is that just illegal ones?

Sorry, thinking you would see that i am expressing poetic licence as to view of the majority.
I am broadly in favour of immigration and take it as a compliment that people wish to join me here.

 

[czechmate]

Sorry, thinking you would see that i am expressing poetic licence as to view of the majority.
I am broadly in favour of immigration and take it as a compliment that people wish to join me here.

i must admit, when I walk around towns here, I am surprised there are any English left over on the island

 

[Vader]

Should we follow Brian`s view that it is all the fault of western aggressive policy? Islamic state was founded in 1991 but did not come to prominence until 2014. Blair left office in 2007 and Bush in 2009. The war in Syria started in 2011. Just a few facts for you and Brian to ponder.
During a visit to NZ some years ago during the (First?) cricket world cup they were selling T-shirts printed "We support anybody who is beating Australia". There may be a touch of that in world political struggles.

Isis came to prominence due to Bush and Blair leaving power vacuums and pi$$ing lost of muslims off.

So a lot of it is western interference sadly yes.
Various middle east countries are/were run by dictatorship. But unfortunately for a reason, democracy does not work in this areas.
West removes the dictator and country goes down the terrorism route. Look at Libya.
West does try and impose its views and morals on other countrys where they really have no right to and should know it wont work.

 

[Vader]

Sorry, thinking you would see that i am expressing poetic licence as to view of the majority.
I am broadly in favour of immigration and take it as a compliment that people wish to join me here.

You want to pay my share of the tax cost to house and look after them then if your happy about it?

 

[czechmate]

You want to pay my share of the tax cost to house and look after them then if your happy about it?

i would happily put a number up here, but they have no interest in deep rural France,
mind, I did used to give a place for New Age Travellers back in the day. Made me Mr Popular in the village

 

[arcobob]

Isis came to prominence due to Bush and Blair leaving power vacuums and pi$$ing lost of muslims off.

So a lot of it is western interference sadly yes.
Various middle east countries are/were run by dictatorship. But unfortunately for a reason, democracy does not work in this areas.
West removes the dictator and country goes down the terrorism route. Look at Libya.
West does try and impose its views and morals on other countrys where they really have no right to and should know it wont work.

I agree with almost all you say but would migration be worse or lower if we had not interfered on humanitarian grounds? Nobody has mentioned Somalia and Ethiopia nor have they provided an explanation for Albanian immigration. Were these our fault or down to British imperialism?

 

[essex man]

You want to pay my share of the tax cost to house and look after them then if your happy about it?

No, i favour them working and paying to look after themselves as most wish to do

 

[arcobob]

i would happily put a number up here, but they have no interest in deep rural France,
mind, I did used to give a place for New Age Travellers back in the day. Made me Mr Popular in the village

Not surprising. Did this result in your persecution and the consequent need to migrate to France?

 

[Vader]

i would happily put a number up here, but they have no interest in deep rural France,
mind, I did used to give a place for New Age Travellers back in the day. Made me Mr Popular in the village

Happy to take some Albanian youths?

 

[Vader]

I agree with almost all you say but would migration be worse or lower if we had not interfered on humanitarian grounds? Nobody has mentioned Somalia and Ethiopia nor have they provided an explanation for Albanian immigration. Were these our fault or down to British imperialism?

Albanian wise.
Well uk drugs and prostitution is being taken over by Albanian gangs.
Most Albanian boat lot are young men.
You do the math. .

Somalia and Ethiopia were Italian colony's, so no, not british imperialism....

 

[Vader]

No, i favour them working and paying to look after themselves as most wish to do

So apply for an economic Visa, not arrive illegally...

Plus low income work or benefits.. which do you think they will take ?
Know what they do locally...

 

[czechmate]

Happy to take some Albanian youths?

no problem.
Actually my next door neighbour is Albanian. - absolutely “normal “ guy

 

[Vader]

no problem.
Actually my next door neighbour is Albanian. - absolutely “normal “ guy

Probably no drug gangs in your area though...
Are the Albanians running the drug/prostitution over with you?

 

[arcobob]

Albanian wise.
Well uk drugs and prostitution is being taken over by Albanian gangs.
Most Albanian boat lot are young men.
You do the math. .

Somalia and Ethiopia were Italian colony's, so no, not british imperialism....

Apart from civil wars, drought and famine the horn of Africa has largely been without outside interference other than massive donations in famine relief. Talking of famine relief, do you think it helps in the long run or does it compound the problem?
With regard Italian influence, they were of course behind the Libyan regime that was toppled by Gaddafi. Gaddafi was killed by a rival faction.

 

[czechmate]

Probably no drug gangs in your area though...
Are the Albanians running the drug/prostitution over with you?

is it only Albanians with you?

tbh, I neither buy drugs or sex so I have no idea the ethnicity of the vendors

 

[Vader]

Apart from civil wars, drought and famine the horn of Africa has largely been without outside interference other than massive donations in famine relief. Talking of famine relief, do you think it helps in the long run or does it compound the problem?
With regard Italian influence, they were of course behind the Libyan regime that was toppled by Gaddafi. Gaddafi was killed by a rival faction.

My old geography teacher said simple sending food to famine areas compounds the problem.
Have to solve what's causing the famine.

 

[Vader]

is it only Albanians with you?

tbh, I neither buy drugs or sex so I have no idea the ethnicity of the vendors

Mainly according to Gov and police data.
They taking over the trade

 

[arcobob]

My old geography teacher said simple sending food to famine areas compounds the problem.
Have to solve what's causing the famine.

Without getting into climate change discussions I believe drought and famine have been a part of life in these parts for centuries. The simple fact is there is too little food for too many people. It may be argued that there is a worldwide situation developing along those lines but the problem has not hit us yet. Should we become involved or should we take every step to simply look after ourselves?
All this moralising about keeping our noses out of the affairs of others raises more questions than answers.

 

[Oldmacdonald]

Most are young men.
Yet uk accepts 50% of them as asylum seekers pretty rapidly.

Of the asylum applications granted in 2022, 41 applicants were Albanian men.

not 41%, 41 people.


Hardly an invasion, is it?

 

[Vader]

Without getting into climate change discussions I believe drought and famine have been a part of life in these parts for centuries. The simple fact is there is too little food for too many people. It may be argued that there is a worldwide situation developing along those lines but the problem has not hit us yet. Should we become involved or should we take every step to simply look after ourselves?
All this moralising about keeping our noses out of the affairs of others raises more questions than answers.

Teacher thought that if you simply feed them in an area with not enough food, then next year it's a bigger problem