milk sampling

[mr grumpy]

Our milk buyer has changed haulage firms and since this has happened our butter fat has been jumping up and down a bit, im not saying its them its just a line of thought. Had two tests two days apart and the bf moved up 0.37 and then on other tests it will jump down the same. The tanker drivers don't dip the tank any more and have a little pot that fills when they are taking the milk. But talking to the tanker driver now he is saying they are taking two samples one from the line and the other dipping from the top of the tank. Phoned the milk buyer just to mention it to them all they said was I will look into it and that's it. Spoke to nutritionist he reckons there is no way the bf should be jumping around that much, not really sure what im asking really, just thoughts i guess.

 

[Fergieman]

I have been thinking the same this last month but mine is only jumping about 0.1 - 0.15 at the most. We have been auto sampling for years though.

 

[Splitpin]

My results jump around a fair bit. We test every day and so far this month mine could be anywhere from 4.1 to 4.6. that's auto sampling with mwd. Not saying the problem lies with that though but I can't explain it otherwise

 

[coomoo]

We also test daily and Dec milk has varied from 4.16 to 4.35 on auto sampler.

 

[multi power]

I really don't know why we don't take a sample ourselves for independent testing

 

[mr grumpy]

who would you send samples to could the vets do it??

 

[multi power]

who would you send samples to could the vets do it??

I don't know, sorry

 

[mr grumpy]

@bovine

 

[jimmer]

who would you send samples to could the vets do it??

http://qmms.co.uk/

 

[Sid]

Like to see the results from the tank sampling and in-line sampling. .
I'd hope that they use the in-line cause it more accurate rather than being to the buyers benefit.

 

[The Ruminant]

http://qmms.co.uk/

I phoned up NMR for some ad hoc sample jars. Came the next day, I sent samples back on a Friday night, results back midday Tuesday with b/f, protein, lactose, SCC and a couple of days' later PD results for the cows

 

[wasted years]

who would you send samples to could the vets do it??

I often take samples and the NML van picks them up as he picks up the other samples from dairies. I don't want to write at length about this subject but I think farmers are very likely to be getting conned out of some large amounts of money due to poor sampling quite often leading to penalties.
I would encourage farmers to take a few samples now and then just to check, after all the person buying your milk is also the test sample taker so there is a conflict of interest, or at least a lack of interest in making sure everything is done to the farmers advantage. I am surprised milk testing isn't covered by trading standards or weights and measures.

 

[jimmer]

I phoned up NMR for some ad hoc sample jars. Came the next day, I sent samples back on a Friday night, results back midday Tuesday with b/f, protein, lactose, SCC and a couple of days' later PD results for the cows

should have results back after 48 hrs

 

[Philip Watkins]

should have results back after 48 hrs

Probably would have been if it hadn't been sent in at the weekend.

 

[Sid]

I often take samples and the NML van picks them up as he picks up the other samples from dairies. I don't want to write at length about this subject but I think farmers are very likely to be getting conned out of some large amounts of money due to poor sampling quite often leading to penalties.
I would encourage farmers to take a few samples now and then just to check, after all the person buying your milk is also the test sample taker so there is a conflict of interest, or at least a lack of interest in making sure everything is done to the farmers advantage. I am surprised milk testing isn't covered by trading standards or weights and measures.

Why would you..we all trust the grain buyer, MLC grader and milk buyer of course :O

 

[Will Blackburn]

Why would you..we all trust the grain buyer, MLC grader and milk buyer of course :O

And your end user trusts that you don't feed pesticide residue laden straw to your milkers

 

[Sid]

And your end user trusts that you don't feed pesticide residue laden straw to your milkers

I would have thought your old drum would have broke with all that beating but obviouslymummy bought didums a new one for christmas awwww bless!

 

[Will Blackburn]

I would have thought your old drum would have broke with all that beating but obviouslymummy bought didums a new one for christmas awwww bless!

Just pointing out there has to be a level of trust in business, and although your brand would slag conventional farmers off in a very public forum I will keep my thoughts within a smaller arena.

 

[Sid]

Just pointing out there has to be a level of trust in business, and although your brand would slag conventional farmers off in a very public forum I will keep my thoughts within a smaller arena.

I've never seen the EU organic committee slagging off conventional?

 

[Headless chicken]

I wouldn't say the organic committee slag off conventional because we're all in the same boat together but there are SOME that get all high and mighty and believe that it's the only way and get very opinionated - bit like a vegan really.

In the interest of keeping this all amicable I just want to clear up that my above statement is not true for anyone on this forum just an observation.