Milk silo

[Glaswellt]

We are currently on daily collections(arla) for 5 months over summer and thinking about buying a bigger milk tank. Was thinking that there is room for an outside silo, about 8000-10000 litre in size this would alow us to keep the old tank thus qualifying for the flexible collection bonus.

Anybody got any expirience with milk silos, what makes is out there, any 2nd hand ones around ect?

 

[Blue.]

We are currently on daily collections(arla) for 5 months over summer and thinking about buying a bigger milk tank. Was thinking that there is room for an outside silo, about 8000-10000 litre in size this would alow us to keep the old tank thus qualifying for the flexible collection bonus.

Anybody got any expirience with milk silos, what makes is out there, any 2nd hand ones around ect?

I've looked and found they are expensive,I've since bought another tank and will have a re-jig in the dairy.

 

[jimmer]

ask yourself what makes a silo ok for outside use and not a tank
no reason a normal tank cant be made suitable for outside use for very little cost

 

[Glaswellt]

Was just thinking that the smaller footprint of a silo would fit better to the outaide area, a 10000 l tank takes up quite a bit of room in comparison.

 

[farmerdan7618]

Is there any reason other than size that your current tank needs changing? The collection bonus is small and I very much doubt the increased running costs of the larger tank and the cost of putting it in would ever be covered by the increased price.

 

[Fergieman]

£10 a day this year and £20 a day next year for daily collection soon makes installing more tank capacity worth while. £10,000 in 2 years. What other investment on a dairy farm will get your money back as quick.

 

[Glaswellt]

£10 a day this year and £20 a day next year for daily collection soon makes installing more tank capacity worth while. £10,000 in 2 years. What other investment on a dairy farm will get your money back as quick.

Yes, that what i was thinking as well, nothing wrong with the tank we have at the moment, but we bought it second hand and it's getting older. Is the flexible collection bonus 0.2 ppl? That soon mounts up as well, the old tank will probably only be little more than scrap value (6000l fabdec)

 

[Glaswellt]

Is it going to be £20 per collection next year? or is it cheaper per collection if on eodc?

 

[Fergieman]

Is it going to be £20 per collection next year? or is it cheaper per collection if on eodc?

Yes £20 per collection for everyday and no charge for EODC. Sure that is right, but I do stand to be corrected.

 

[jimmer]

Yes £20 per collection for everyday and no charge for EODC. Sure that is right, but I do stand to be corrected.

correct

 

[bar718]

Is it going to be £20 per collection next year? or is it cheaper per collection if on eodc?

EODC collection is free and will remain that way , but we pay £20 for the other day at present so 15 free collections per month and 15 charged at £20 . Next year this charge is going up to £30 then the following year up to £38 ( figure still to be confirmed ) .

 

[multi power]

£10 a day this year and £20 a day next year for daily collection soon makes installing more tank capacity worth while. £10,000 in 2 years. What other investment on a dairy farm will get your money back as quick.

Grass seed would be an example of a similar good investment

 

[Headless chicken]

@newholland don't get taken to court now

 

[farmerdan7618]

£10 a day this year and £20 a day next year for daily collection soon makes installing more tank capacity worth while. £10,000 in 2 years. What other investment on a dairy farm will get your money back as quick.

Might be a bit disappointed if you use those figures
Only budget on savings for the 5 months on every day collection, the savings are being made the rest of the year already, so that's £1500 this year, £2250 next year and £2850 per year after that.
Any savings from the new tank being more efficient will be wiped out by the larger internal capacity to keep cool. Presumably new one would be somewhere handy on £30k to install by the time building works done.
So a payback of just over 11 years.
Reckon you might be able to get the 0.2 flexible collection bonus on everyday too, pretty sure they only have to have tank access at whatever time of day.

 

[Irish NZ]

Grass seed would be an example of a similar good investment

It depends who's managing the grass.......

 

[Fergieman]

Might be a bit disappointed if you use those figures
Only budget on savings for the 5 months on every day collection, the savings are being made the rest of the year already, so that's £1500 this year, £2250 next year and £2850 per year after that.
Any savings from the new tank being more efficient will be wiped out by the larger internal capacity to keep cool. Presumably new one would be somewhere handy on £30k to install by the time building works done.
So a payback of just over 11 years.
Reckon you might be able to get the 0.2 flexible collection bonus on everyday too, pretty sure they only have to have tank access at whatever time of day.

Can you explain this a bit more? I paid £300 January and £280 Feb which is £20 every other day or £10 a day what ever way you look at it. No plans to change tanks but just curious if the costs are going to reduce.

 

[farmerdan7618]

We are currently on daily collections(arla) for 5 months over summer

@Fergieman - OP only needs daily collection for 5 months of the year, so won't save what they aren't paying already. Budgets will be different for you if on daily collection all year round.

 

[Fergieman]

@Fergieman - OP only needs daily collection for 5 months of the year, so won't save what they aren't paying already. Budgets will be different for you if on daily collection all year round.

Ahh, that was the bit I failed to see! Thought to were refering to all Arla producers!

 

[Will Blackburn]

Any savings from the new tank being more efficient will be wiped out by the larger internal capacity to keep cool.

As long as the larger internal capacity is only containing air then the difference will be next to nothing. The bigger tank should have better compressors and insulation, this should wipe out any extra cost of cleaning (hot water and detergent) which will be halved anyway by EODC.