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BrianV

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Dartmoor
Think the Tories will slowly come to realise that their voters have had enough of them & will simply not turn out to vote, they will not vote for Starmer but might possibly vote for an alternative Labour leader, Labour voters on the other hand will turn out to vote for whoever is leading the party, if Labour want to win the next election they have to ditch Starmer & get Burnham in place to attract a lot of dissatisfied previous Tory voters!
 

BrianV

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Dartmoor
For years we have been told don't vote Labour as they will spend billions & bankrupt the country, well I think Bozo has blown that argument clean out of the water.

Personally in future if a UK government is going to splash billions of pounds around I would far sooner it was spent on people who buy Beef & Beer rather than quaff Caviar & Champagne wouldn't you!
 

HatsOff

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Mixed Farmer
For years we have been told don't vote Labour as they will spend billions & bankrupt the country, well I think Bozo has blown that argument clean out of the water.

Personally in future if a UK government is going to splash billions of pounds around I would far sooner it was spent on people who buy Beef & Beer rather than quaff Caviar & Champagne wouldn't you!

It's a shame because his style of governance was clear when he was London Mayor. £50M spent on a bridge that never even got started, £100ks to his mistresses (although that only came out later), making lots of the benefits from projects that Livingstone had actually started. He did nothing other than make lots of noise and waste money.
 

Easedoff

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Livestock Farmer
For years we have been told don't vote Labour as they will spend billions & bankrupt the country, well I think Bozo has blown that argument clean out of the water.

Personally in future if a UK government is going to splash billions of pounds around I would far sooner it was spent on people who buy Beef & Beer rather than quaff Caviar & Champagne wouldn't you!
You think Labour would have spent less?
 

neilo

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
It's a shame because his style of governance was clear when he was London Mayor. £50M spent on a bridge that never even got started, £100ks to his mistresses (although that only came out later), making lots of the benefits from projects that Livingstone had actually started. He did nothing other than make lots of noise and waste money.

He did proclaim that he would lie down in front of the bulldozers if they tried to start on a new runway at Heathrow.

OK, he may have then let it get voted through by not bothering to be there at the time, but has his bungling stopped them making a start? I do like a man of his word. :unsure:
 

BrianV

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Dartmoor
He did proclaim that he would lie down in front of the bulldozers if they tried to start on a new runway at Heathrow.

OK, he may have then let it get voted through by not bothering to be there at the time, but has his bungling stopped them making a start? I do like a man of his word. :unsure:
He did want an airport in the middle of the Thames & a bridge to Ireland if he could have had his way!
 

BrianV

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Dartmoor

Heat pump proposals ‘grossly unfair’ to rural communities​


© Adobe Stock/Joyce D Holyoak
© Adobe Stock/Joyce D Holyoak
Plans to force rural property owners in England to replace oil-fired heating systems with heat pumps almost a decade earlier than their counterparts who are connected to the gas grid have been branded ‘unfair’ by rural lobbyists.
As part of its heat and buildings strategy, the government is consulting on ending from 2026 the installation of new fossil fuel heating in English homes which are off the gas grid. Air source heat pumps have been identified as the ‘first choice’ replacement.
Where it will not be reasonably practical to install a heat pump, homeowners will be expected to find a low carbon heating solution which is consistent with the government’s net zero ambitions.
See also: What landlords need to know about energy efficiency rules
There are an estimated 1.1m homes in England using fossil fuel heating which are not connected to the gas grid, of which 78% use heating oil, 13% use liquid petroleum gas, and 9% coal.

‘Grossly unfair’​

The Rural Services Network (RSN), which represents local authorities and organisations working in rural areas, said rural areas should not be used as a test bed to trial systems for the rest of the UK.
Under the proposal, a household off the gas grid whose oil or LPG boiler breaks down and cannot be repaired will be required after 2026 to install a new non-fossil fuel heating system.
However, property owners on the gas grid who face such a breakdown will be able to replace like-for-like until 2035.

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In a review of the consultation paper, the RSN said while it was supportive of the aim to decarbonise the heating of buildings, it would be “grossly unfair” to rural communities to have different timescales to work to than elsewhere.
While a boiler update scheme will offer grants of up to £5,000 for an air source heat pump and £6,000 for a ground source heat pump, the average cost of installing a heat pump in a rural home is £12,000. Other internal modifications are also likely to needed to achieve better efficiency, for example, underfloor heating or larger surface area radiators.
The RSN argued that there was also not enough recognition that homeowners and landlords will face additional costs over and above the costs of installing a heat pump because they are likely to also need to upgrade the energy efficiency of the building or the pump will be ineffective

Flexibility required​

The CLA has pointed out that heat pumps are not always suitable in rural areas, so property owners must have the flexibility to install the heating type which is best suited to their home, which may include biomass and biofuel.
It also said it was disappointed the target did not contain more on Energy Performance Certificates (EPCs).
The CLA has been lobbying for reform of EPCs so they are more accurate for older buildings and recommend cost-effective, appropriate improvements.
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Any country person who votes for this lot again needs their head seen to, if they think we are all going to rip out our boilers, dig up our gardens & renovate all the inside of our houses just so this lot can continue their jollies they are very wrong!
 

robs1

Member

Heat pump proposals ‘grossly unfair’ to rural communities​


© Adobe Stock/Joyce D Holyoak
© Adobe Stock/Joyce D Holyoak
Plans to force rural property owners in England to replace oil-fired heating systems with heat pumps almost a decade earlier than their counterparts who are connected to the gas grid have been branded ‘unfair’ by rural lobbyists.
As part of its heat and buildings strategy, the government is consulting on ending from 2026 the installation of new fossil fuel heating in English homes which are off the gas grid. Air source heat pumps have been identified as the ‘first choice’ replacement.
Where it will not be reasonably practical to install a heat pump, homeowners will be expected to find a low carbon heating solution which is consistent with the government’s net zero ambitions.
See also: What landlords need to know about energy efficiency rules
There are an estimated 1.1m homes in England using fossil fuel heating which are not connected to the gas grid, of which 78% use heating oil, 13% use liquid petroleum gas, and 9% coal.

‘Grossly unfair’​

The Rural Services Network (RSN), which represents local authorities and organisations working in rural areas, said rural areas should not be used as a test bed to trial systems for the rest of the UK.
Under the proposal, a household off the gas grid whose oil or LPG boiler breaks down and cannot be repaired will be required after 2026 to install a new non-fossil fuel heating system.
However, property owners on the gas grid who face such a breakdown will be able to replace like-for-like until 2035.

Explore moreKnow How​

Visit our Know How centre for practical farming advice

In a review of the consultation paper, the RSN said while it was supportive of the aim to decarbonise the heating of buildings, it would be “grossly unfair” to rural communities to have different timescales to work to than elsewhere.
While a boiler update scheme will offer grants of up to £5,000 for an air source heat pump and £6,000 for a ground source heat pump, the average cost of installing a heat pump in a rural home is £12,000. Other internal modifications are also likely to needed to achieve better efficiency, for example, underfloor heating or larger surface area radiators.
The RSN argued that there was also not enough recognition that homeowners and landlords will face additional costs over and above the costs of installing a heat pump because they are likely to also need to upgrade the energy efficiency of the building or the pump will be ineffective

Flexibility required​

The CLA has pointed out that heat pumps are not always suitable in rural areas, so property owners must have the flexibility to install the heating type which is best suited to their home, which may include biomass and biofuel.
It also said it was disappointed the target did not contain more on Energy Performance Certificates (EPCs).
The CLA has been lobbying for reform of EPCs so they are more accurate for older buildings and recommend cost-effective, appropriate improvements.
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Any country person who votes for this lot again needs their head seen to, if they think we are all going to rip out our boilers, dig up our gardens & renovate all the inside of our houses just so this lot can continue their jollies they are very wrong!
Do you really think that labour or libs will be any different?
 

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