Mower output 3m to 6m (front and back).
- Thread starter DairyGrazing
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Fraserb
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- Location
- Scottish Borders
We went from doubles to triples, in really heavy crops output is only slightly up as tractor runs out of power, in our more normal crops we can run the same speed as before and cut 10m instead if 6m.
brentnz
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- Location
- New Zealand
The biggest improvement is how balanced the whole rig feels! Without conditioners they used to say 100hp for the first mower, and 50hp for each additional bed. I’m sure there are plenty of exceptions to the rule, but it’s a good guide.
Chae1
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- Location
- Aberdeenshire
Our current rear one is trailed so balance not a issue.
- Location
- our house, Norn Iron
Only downside is if you are having to hook on & off a lot would take time, not a problem here but could see it being one.
- Location
- our house, Norn Iron
Sometimes it is, maybe even more, less empty running on headlands/turning on corners, also can mow off 1 side in badly shaped fields, need enough power to mantain the same speed as a single mower tho.
- Location
- Yorkshire
À frame and PTO to attach nothing of a job to hook front mower up, faster than putting rear on
davidroberts30
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- Location
- pembrokeshire
yes so average about 85% faster
- Location
- Cheltenham
Out of interest what is the current TFF mowing men view on “to condition or not condition”? As far as we can tell it’s 50:50 roughly speaking from our demo’s and enquiries. Plain mowers leave a flatter swath so tedding is more tricky because you ha e to run the tines closer to the ground and watch forward speed to make sure all is being picked up.
- Location
- South Molton
Farming organically here front and rear straight combination, get it down quick, straight in behind with tedder to move it all.
Every cut gets ted, wetter stuff twice.
Small rotor 9m wide teddertaking 3 rows of grass so that it's not a race.
I wouldn't go back to single mower.
Half as many turns, squared corners, less driven over and not cut.
Speedstar
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- Location
- Scottish Borders
yes we run 10 meter triples , takes hp but you can put a lot of grass down in very little time
davidroberts30
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- Location
- pembrokeshire
conditioner every time,full spread
save a pass with tedder
not needing to run rake on floor coz the grass is flat
Speedstar
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- Location
- Scottish Borders
We find 100hp per 3 meters with conditioners out put 10 acres an hour
6 meters 200hp 20 acres per hour
10 meter triples 390 hp on them can drop over 40 acres an hour
Your figures make absolutely no sense
10ac hour with one mower would equate to about 18 ac/ hour with doubles or 28ac/hour with triples allowing for an extra metre of cut,
10 ac/hour with a single is wildly optimistic in itself
davidroberts30
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- Location
- pembrokeshire
i can average 10a a hour here at home with a 3.2
im about 17a now with a 2.8 and 3.2
- Location
- Cheltenham
I’d agree but many are of the opposite view
davidroberts30
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- Location
- pembrokeshire
each to their own, it works for me
Mark C
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- Location
- Bedfordshire
Just in the process of going from front and rear centre pivot trailed mo'co's to non conditioner triples. Bought the rears as they were in stock at the 'old price' no front available so finiding off the season with the old front moco.
Using the slightly less fuel on the triples without conditioners.
Reason for going non conditioner is that all our grass is for hay or haylage so gets tedded out straight away. Less ryegrass and more timothy being grown, so saved £8-10k on the price compared to a set with conditioners
Not cutting 1000's of acres but need to get a lot of grass down quickly each morning before we go out baling.
Meadow grass doesn't need conditioning and it thrashes out the seed later in the season which isn't ideal with a front mower, even with a reversing fan.
If anyone wants a second hand John Deere 131 front mo co mine will be for sale in September.
Using the slightly less fuel on the triples without conditioners.
Reason for going non conditioner is that all our grass is for hay or haylage so gets tedded out straight away. Less ryegrass and more timothy being grown, so saved £8-10k on the price compared to a set with conditioners
Not cutting 1000's of acres but need to get a lot of grass down quickly each morning before we go out baling.
Meadow grass doesn't need conditioning and it thrashes out the seed later in the season which isn't ideal with a front mower, even with a reversing fan.
If anyone wants a second hand John Deere 131 front mo co mine will be for sale in September.
You know what’s achievable on your farm, but that’s a 70% rise in output from adding a front mower which is in line with what would be expected, still well worth the investment though.
davidroberts30
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- Location
- pembrokeshire
I hate using 1 for any reason now so slow