Mr Mackintosh, Red Tractor chair

[slackjawedyokel]

Did anyone catch the big article on Alistair Mackintosh in FG? Must admit I’ve been busy so I didn’t see it til now but wow. Just wow.

Apparently there will now be no vote of No Confidence in Mr Moseley because everyone realises the top team are a “fantastic group of people”

He is ‘quite frustrated’ that we farmers don’t understand just what a fab job the top team are doing.

Far from being frustrated at the lack of premiums for (often compulsory) RT membership, Mr Mackintosh believes he’s getting more than his money’s worth- receiving the cost back 10- times over (??????)

…Beef and lamb is a difficult sector to get on board with the RT project because a lot of us “just do not get it” (FFS)

what I probably find most worrying is the bit near the end suggesting a return of GFC to the table.

All in all, this is looking very worrying from the new chair at RT. Far from a clean sweep and new ideas it rather looks like one step forward and two back. Management have done the bare minimum to head off the immediate looming threat of a no-confidence vote and is settling down to business-as-usual.

And still no word on the how the 2nd RT review will garner farmers opinions (except at some of the bigger summer shows, which unfortunately I haven’t been able to get to).

It’s looking like RT is utterly confident it won’t be knocked off its perch if it’s wheeling this (charming chap) out to tell us off and tell us that we’re wrong.

More radical action may need to be planned perhaps.
@Clive

 

[Jackov Altraids]

What an arrogant arsehole.

Completely ignoring the results of the first review and not caring what the second one might say, we are wonderful, it is these stupid little farmers that need educating.

I'll be polite and say I'm not impressed.

 

[spin cycle]

wow...just wow .......mind boggling arrogance and denial

 

[mixedfmr]

Did anyone catch the big article on Alistair Mackintosh in FG? Must admit I’ve been busy so I didn’t see it til now but wow. Just wow.

Apparently there will now be no vote of No Confidence in Mr Moseley because everyone realises the top team are a “fantastic group of people”

He is ‘quite frustrated’ that we farmers don’t understand just what a fab job the top team are doing.

Far from being frustrated at the lack of premiums for (often compulsory) RT membership, Mr Mackintosh believes he’s getting more than his money’s worth- receiving the cost back 10- times over (??????)

…Beef and lamb is a difficult sector to get on board with the RT project because a lot of us “just do not get it” (FFS)

what I probably find most worrying is the bit near the end suggesting a return of GFC to the table.

All in all, this is looking very worrying from the new chair at RT. Far from a clean sweep and new ideas it rather looks like one step forward and two back. Management have done the bare minimum to head off the immediate looming threat of a no-confidence vote and is settling down to business-as-usual.

And still no word on the how the 2nd RT review will garner farmers opinions (except at some of the bigger summer shows, which unfortunately I haven’t been able to get to).

It’s looking like RT is utterly confident it won’t be knocked off its perch if it’s wheeling this (charming chap) out to tell us off and tell us that we’re wrong.

More radical action may need to be planned perhaps.
@Clive

This BASKET cost me £40k plus as he sat on a panel of 3 judgeing me for DEFRA some 20 years ago

Result, i had to start off on £8/acre sub, Despite doing EXACTLY the same as a neighbour and having other land in the sub system already

As I say a BASKET, a Gov pet

 

[slackjawedyokel]

This BASKET cost me £40k plus as he sat on a panel of 3 judgeing me for DEFRA some 20 years ago

Result, i had to start off on £8/acre sub, Despite doing EXACTLY the same as a neighbour and having other land in the sub system already

As I say a BASKET, a Gov pet

BASKET? I knew RT was in league with supermarkets

 

[deleted user 837354]

Cripes, you guys must be spitting feathers after reading that carp.

 

[texelburger]

Bamboozled and Brainwashed by the BRC,AIC,AHDB and NFU crew.I don't think confidence in RT will ever be regained,certainly not in its current format with Jim at the helm.
The public don't know or care about RT,the amount of imported and non assured food on Supermarket shelves endorses it.

 

[Raider112]

He's from Cumbria same as me.

I couldn't put my finger on it but I have never taken to him, I'm seeing it now, what a bloody arrogant man, rather than trying to get us on board he thinks we are just too stupid to see how they are doing us a favour.

 

[slackjawedyokel]

Note the little side article where Christine Tacon feels she left a “job half-finished”

 

[deleted user 837354]

Note the little side article where Christine Tacon feels she left a “job half-finished”

'Looking back on my time, my main regret is that I didn't fudge them a lot harder, I was just getting into my stride before another post called my name'.

 

[jendan]

He's from Cumbria same as me.

I couldn't put my finger on it but I have never taken to him, I'm seeing it now, what a bloody arrogant man, rather than trying to get us on board he thinks we are just too stupid to see how they are doing us a favour.

Wasnt there some sort of scandal going on with him a few years back ?

 

[Grass And Grain]

He forgot to mention imported cereals. Obviously slipped his mind to talk about it in the article. Forgot to explain how he thinks RT grain gets a price premium whilst he knows full well that non-assured imports get blended into the same pack of flour.

 

[Old apprentice]

From his appointment from what I was informed he will carry on as before same as others that left. Nothing new here then.
Soon on the article he is saying not being rt you are restricted to not having access to the market of your product ,so it is a restriction to not having a market private company's having total control of your ability to trade, Restrictive practises.

 

[deleted user 837354]

From his appointment from what I was informed he will carry on as before same as others that left. Nothing new here then.
Soon on the article he is saying not being rt you are restricted to not having access to the market of your product ,so it is a restriction to not having a market private company's having total control of your ability to trade, Restrictive practises.

These organisations are hardly likely to put a person in the seat who does anything but toe the line.

 

[Old apprentice]

We will be back to fiting something else with them if not gfc, all over again.


COULD SOME ONE MAKE A POSTER PROMOTING BFU, NOT AT THE MOMENT WITH GFC, in the reading just to promote BFU, then I can go round the auctions and put them up again ?

 

[Tarw Coch]

These organisations are hardly likely to put a person in the seat who does anything but toe the line.

Exactly, what else did people expect

 

[Flatland guy]

They cannot or will not grasp that there is no assurance with imports, and any processor and /or retailer obviously has no concerns too. To myself that article is just about watering down the audit a bit to get the remaining non RT aboard for the money. I can remember a family member watching 'Rogue traders' this is where a tradesperson has been ripping off doing shoddy work and come to the attentions of trading standards who try to publicly shame however this particular person then advertised as seen on tv, effectively trying to turn bad news into good at the moment that person is RT.

No one can tell myself who audits RT by UK Government for in relation to any matter in the audit that farmers have to do. They like to think they sit at the top of the pile but they have NO UK Government remit, RT powers are not over and above the Environment Agency, APHA, HSE with Chemical regulations, BCMS, Trading Standards etc. The UK Government still have all, the necessary departments for all the UK rules and regulations and for doing any inspections to ensure compliance. and then any fines/ remedial work accordingly.

 

[Jimdog1]

These assurance bodies do not like to be pushed back. It really doesn't sound like they have listened and intend to carry on regardless. I think a lot of this stems from the supermarkets trying to tie in their supply base. What they don't like is choice for the producer to supply whoever they like through whichever marketplace they choose. We must remember that there is a huge population that we alone cannot feed and the Supermarkets do not want to fight over us. Assurance is a tool in the box for killing the true marketplace.

 

[Flatland guy]

These assurance bodies do not like to be pushed back. It really doesn't sound like they have listened and intend to carry on regardless. I think a lot of this stems from the supermarkets trying to tie in their supply base. What they don't like is choice for the producer to supply whoever they like through whichever marketplace they choose. We must remember that there is a huge population that we alone cannot feed and the Supermarkets do not want to fight over us. Assurance is a tool in the box for killing the true marketplace.

They call themselves body/bodies as if they have Government powers but they do not.

 

[Jimdog1]

They call themselves body/bodies as if they have Government powers but they do not.

All the assurance bodies are the same in that they are driven by the supermarkets and are about continuity of supply. I know of one assurer who took on part of APHA's role only to have it taken off them as they got so behind with the work.