Much ergot about?

Widgetone

Member
Trade
Location
Westish Suffolk
some intakes do not look very hard so grain gets accepted

others where it matters to the end user look carefully tipping the whole sample on a white sheet if its there they find it
Yes, indeed.
Seems odd in that most flour mills have colour sorters at intake anyway.
I understand, but am no expert, that feed regulations re ergot are much tougher than food regs?
 

PSQ

Member
Arable Farmer
We seemed to of been non stop colour sorting rejected loads since harvest. This year there seems to be more in barley.
Any patterns emerging from clients as to why?
Is it (presumably) crops following grass or maize, or are there any standout varieties or cultivation or sowing methods?
 
Is there no other way of removing some ergot than by using a colour sorter?
gravity table but you can loose 5 to 10% of the grain which is then very high ergot
Any patterns emerging from clients as to why?
Is it (presumably) crops following grass or maize, or are there any standout varieties or cultivation or sowing methods?

ryegrass black grass and brome ergot is often smaller and thinner

wheat ergot is bigger than a wheat grain

rialto was a bad variety often hard bread varieties have been worse in the days when 100% black grass control was usual
 

alomy75

Member
less here in wheat and barley

less bg and brome in crops helps although variety and drilling date has an influence
The airbornes spores that infect crops will only affect crops that are flowering. Hence later/earlier flowering crops will be less affected. Similarly open architecture varieties are more prone to ‘catching’ spores. There’s very little evidence to use those two facts though to our advantage though. Grassweeds are very susceptible so good hygiene is a must but the same goes for your neighbours too. There is also a ground fruiting body stage that causes infection so ploughing those down will help.
 

Flat 10

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Fen Edge
Any patterns emerging from clients as to why?
Is it (presumably) crops following grass or maize, or are there any standout varieties or cultivation or sowing methods?
Much less this year actually but we never follow grass or maize and rotationally plough I don’t think there’s a way to stop it 🤷🏼‍♂️
 

David.

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
J11 M40
Some homes are better than others.
I paid one deduction for 5pcs in a load sample in 2022 grain, @£21/t :eek:, which is a first. Colour sorting is slow and expensive, and I can't do it even if load came back.
Costello as it happens, on a hard biscuit spec, is it prone to ergot?
Not had problems this yr.
 

J 1177

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Durham, UK
Some homes are better than others.
I paid one deduction for 5pcs in a load sample in 2022 grain, @£21/t :eek:, which is a first. Colour sorting is slow and expensive, and I can't do it even if load came back.
Costello as it happens, on a hard biscuit spec, is it prone to ergot?
Not had problems this yr.
Iv got 2 load to go next week, seen some ergot in the wet heap, picked it off the wet heap, picked it as it came out of the drier slowly (3of us). Then picked every bucket full when transfering shed to shed. Chris i hope its ok. There seems to always be something this year
 

David.

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
J11 M40
Iv got 2 load to go next week, seen some ergot in the wet heap, picked it off the wet heap, picked it as it came out of the drier slowly (3of us). Then picked every bucket full when transfering shed to shed. Chris i hope its ok. There seems to always be something this year
Think vacuum sampler actually seeks out lighter stuff. It's the small stuff no bigger than mouse turds that gets you.
 

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