Navara V6

[mf7480]

Has anyone had any experience with the Navara V6?

I am looking to replace my aging Discovery, and my Wife's Volvo estate for a new/ nearly new pickup, as I can use the farm land rover for a runabout and we could do with more space for the growing family.

I have test driven most of them,

The Hilux felt very agricultural, with a loud, course engine and unacceptable ride comfort.

The D Max was better in all respects, but still a bit on the workman like.

The Amarok has been written off as unaffordable, you can get them for the same price as the others, but with 40k miles on the clock!

I then took out a Navara which was at the Isuzu garage, and the difference was night and day to the other two. It was actually comfortable to be in, and the interior felt car like, with decent quality switch gear and comfortable seats, and that silky smooth V6 engine was a delight compared to anything else.

Brand new the V6 is the dearest at about £35k!, but they seem to depreciate like a stone to start with, and a year old one with less than 10k miles on the clock can be picked up for £21k.

BUT, what concerns me a bit is fuel economy and reliablilty of this somewhat rare machine, and why do they depreciate so heavily?

I realise the other two would probably be better workhorses and stand up better to jumping in and out with wellies on, but this vehicle will predominantly be ferrying kids and towing a flatbed with not a massive load on.

Any points of view good or bad?

 

[Banana Bar]

I wouldn't want to be the kid in the back of a Navara for very long. Ok for short journeys but I think they are all uncomfortable if used on long journeys

 

[smcapstick]

I'll let you know in a few days - my V6 Navara gets delivered tomorrow

I have had five 2.5 D40 Navaras and loved them all. More comfortable than all the others (except Amarok), despite the Isuzu being close, they are very car-like. They cope with a lot of towing well, too. I have not yet had an automatic one, but there do not seem to be many reported problems with them.

I wouldn't want to be the kid in the back of a Navara for very long. Ok for short journeys but I think they are all uncomfortable if used on long journeys

Obviously, a Range Rover Vogue would be nicer for the kiddies... but that's not the point, is it?

 

[Mwf]

I have one.
Great truck,lovely engine,drives really well. Completely different animal to the 2.5 in every way,gearbox is class apart.
Fuel economy is roughly the same as the 2.5. It's better on a run but i am mostly in fields or short trips.

I would drive mine to Scotland without even thinking about it.

 

[mf7480]

Thanks for your replies-

@smcapstick I'll be interested to hear how you get on when you've picked yours up.

What MPG are you getting out of yours @Mwf? Have you had any faults with it?

 

[Mursal]

Would you not consider the 2.5 V6 VW or Audi 4x4's for high residual value?

 

[Daniel]

I'd rather an Amarok with 40k miles on it than a Navara with 10k if it was the same money. Our Amarok is coming up to 115k miles and going fine other than a bit of play in the gear linkage.

 

[smcapstick]

I'd rather an Amarok with 40k miles on it than a Navara with 10k if it was the same money. Our Amarok is coming up to 115k miles and going fine other than a bit of play in the gear linkage.

They're not the same money, though.

 

[mf7480]

Would you not consider the 2.5 V6 VW or Audi 4x4's for high residual value?

Do you mean the Touareg/ Q7?

They aren't very tax efficient, and I don't think you would get much with my budget.

 

[Mursal]

Yes, and yes you are probably correct, just a thought ...............

 

[mf7480]

I'd rather an Amarok with 40k miles on it than a Navara with 10k if it was the same money. Our Amarok is coming up to 115k miles and going fine other than a bit of play in the gear linkage.

A 40k mile amarok is about £24,500

An 8k mile v6 navara with 3 years warranty and a rear hood is £20,500.

A brand new hilux/ d max/ ranger 3.2 is £24,500

Options options

 

[smcapstick]

V6 = better!

 

[quavers]

Arnold clark advertise new hilux invincible in the Scottish farmer for a bit over £19 000 ,may be not the best now days but hold there value well. plus the vat

 

[smcapstick]

Arnold clark advertise new hilux invincible in the Scottish farmer for a bit over £19 000 ,may be not the best now days but hold there value well. plus the vat

That sounds cheap? No cruise in it, that's for sure.

 

[mf7480]

A basic invincible is quite basic, it's not a bad price but no sat Jax, leather, cruise control, possibly climate control, and no rear hood.

I've had a price of £23k with that lot. But it's a non contender because of a rear lapbelt and rigid ride quality.

 

[Henery]

I was offered a hilux invincible, 3 litre, auto, sat nav, cruise, tow bar, load liner and a roll top load cover, v good spec but not leather. £22k. That was Greenhouse Toyota in Telford.
Was tempted but will wait and see what the new model is like.

 

[warksfarmer]

Has anyone had any experience with the Navara V6?

I am looking to replace my aging Discovery, and my Wife's Volvo estate for a new/ nearly new pickup, as I can use the farm land rover for a runabout and we could do with more space for the growing family.

I have test driven most of them,

The Hilux felt very agricultural, with a loud, course engine and unacceptable ride comfort.

The D Max was better in all respects, but still a bit on the workman like.

The Amarok has been written off as unaffordable, you can get them for the same price as the others, but with 40k miles on the clock!

I then took out a Navara which was at the Isuzu garage, and the difference was night and day to the other two. It was actually comfortable to be in, and the interior felt car like, with decent quality switch gear and comfortable seats, and that silky smooth V6 engine was a delight compared to anything else.

Brand new the V6 is the dearest at about £35k!, but they seem to depreciate like a stone to start with, and a year old one with less than 10k miles on the clock can be picked up for £21k.

BUT, what concerns me a bit is fuel economy and reliablilty of this somewhat rare machine, and why do they depreciate so heavily?

I realise the other two would probably be better workhorses and stand up better to jumping in and out with wellies on, but this vehicle will predominantly be ferrying kids and towing a flatbed with not a massive load on.

Any points of view good or bad?

Fuel economy isn't great. Manual 2.5 averaged 31mpg over 60k miles. Mostly short journeys ..... 2-3 miles and a little bit of towing and around 600kg weight in the load area much of the time.

Auto 2.5 is averaging 27mpg over 18k miles so far but generally longer journeys of 10-12 miles. Again little bit of towing but always about 200kg in the load area.

3.0 v6 auto on 25k miles, no towing at all and no weight in the rear averaged 23mpg.

All caused virtually no problems mechanically and anything has been done on warranty without issue.

No concerns at all about driving long distances in any as they drive like a car compared to any other pickups. The road tyres they come one (normally Goodyear) are not good though especially off road. Navara's get stuck very easily because they sit lower than other trucks which is one of the reasons they drive like cars. Good trucks but dated now ....... New one coming early 2016 apparently.

 

[mf7480]

Thanks for the responses so far.

To throw a spanner in the works, I've been priced £21,500 for a brand new 2.5 tekna auto with full spec. A manual is £20,750, making it a full £3,000 cheaper than a ranger or d max. I think the d max seems very dear for what you're getting.

I think the 2016 models all the manufacturers are releasing imminently will be better and more refined, but I've been bitten before by having the first of a new model with reliability problems, so I wonder if I'm actually better to have the last of the old model, which in the case of the navara has well over £6000 of discount at the moment. I'm sure the new one will have very little discount available.

 

[warksfarmer]

Thanks for the responses so far.

To throw a spanner in the works, I've been priced £21,500 for a brand new 2.5 tekna auto with full spec. A manual is £20,750, making it a full £3,000 cheaper than a ranger or d max. I think the d max seems very dear for what you're getting.

I think the 2016 models all the manufacturers are releasing imminently will be better and more refined, but I've been bitten before by having the first of a new model with reliability problems, so I wonder if I'm actually better to have the last of the old model, which in the case of the navara has well over £6000 of discount at the moment. I'm sure the new one will have very little discount available.

Grab it ....... Lease prices are going up because supply is slimming down due to the new model. Was quoted £330/month for a tekna auto recently 15k miles 3 yr deal. It's to much at that as the last one was £260/month.

You might find the discounts disappear as the trade run out of old model stock ..... That's what the lease companies are saying anyway.

 

[mf7480]

Fuel economy isn't great. Manual 2.5 averaged 31mpg over 60k miles. Mostly short journeys ..... 2-3 miles and a little bit of towing and around 600kg weight in the load area much of the time.

Auto 2.5 is averaging 27mpg over 18k miles so far but generally longer journeys of 10-12 miles. Again little bit of towing but always about 200kg in the load area.

3.0 v6 auto on 25k miles, no towing at all and no weight in the rear averaged 23mpg.

All caused virtually no problems mechanically and anything has been done on warranty without issue.

No concerns at all about driving long distances in any as they drive like a car compared to any other pickups. The road tyres they come one (normally Goodyear) are not good though especially off road. Navara's get stuck very easily because they sit lower than other trucks which is one of the reasons they drive like cars. Good trucks but dated now ....... New one coming early 2016 apparently.

So have you had a V6 and gone back to the 2.5?

I'm trying to decide whether the extra £1000 a year on fuel is worth it for the extra refinement and grunt. How did you find the auto box? There seems to be some poor reviews on the internet, but I didn't notice anything too horrendous on a 15 minute test drive.

And how do you get on with the auto box on the 2.5?

I'd always rather an auto over a manual, but there's nothing worse than a badly setup auto.