New cattle crush

welshy

Member
Looking for a new crush. Had a chiefton for years but doors don't open quite right to put a calf to suck. Would like something similar with rotating rump bar just better access. Any ideas.
 

Danllan

Member
Location
Sir Gar / Carms
We bought a Chieftain dual width a few years ago, very happy with it - after adding a super scoop - lot's of access, can't see suckling as a problem if you lift off a back door. Don't know how old yours was, but they have changed and improved over time.

Just looked at the beef crushes on the Morris website, they seem alright but a step down from the modern Chieftains in my view.

Slightly changing the subject, but the IAE crushes now seem the best of all IAE's kit, galvanising and engineering all very good, whereas the same can't now be said of gates and hurdles.

(Also... and this isn't just Morris, it does amuse me to see some of the demo' pic's showing a crush in the middle of pasture or right next to a shed door, or right in front of a silage clamp. I know it's just for looking, but you'd think they would get one in its natural environment now and then, if only by accident :rolleyes:)
 

Jackov Altraids

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Devon
Was planning a look round builth. Old crush would be best part of 20yo. A bit bruised and battered now.
I think your time would be spent better looking on youtube. I don't know whats in Builth but most yards will just have a selection from one manufacturer and you might not realise what tremendous features some modern crushes have. In my opinion, Bateman and IAE have been lazy and not really tried to improve their products beyond adjusting the various ways of opening sides.

A few examples to get you started, I fear the Americans are a million times better at selling their gear.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=aYevBGDsQc4


https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=9SmGmmJxMKk


https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=14&v=FoQgXlmKF2A


Straight head gates give you much better control than angled yolks.
Remember to see if you can get a grant towards it....
 

Hampton

Member
BASIS
Location
Shropshire
We bought a Chieftain dual width a few years ago, very happy with it - after adding a super scoop - lot's of access, can't see suckling as a problem if you lift off a back door. Don't know how old yours was, but they have changed and improved over time.

Just looked at the beef crushes on the Morris website, they seem alright but a step down from the modern Chieftains in my view.

Slightly changing the subject, but the IAE crushes now seem the best of all IAE's kit, galvanising and engineering all very good, whereas the same can't now be said of gates and hurdles.

(Also... and this isn't just Morris, it does amuse me to see some of the demo' pic's showing a crush in the middle of pasture or right next to a shed door, or right in front of a silage clamp. I know it's just for looking, but you'd think they would get one in its natural environment now and then, if only by accident :rolleyes:)
If you go to Jones at Lydham (Morris crushes) they will show you their race and system quite happily
 

milkloss

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
East Sussex
Looking for a new crush. Had a chiefton for years but doors don't open quite right to put a calf to suck. Would like something similar with rotating rump bar just better access. Any ideas.

Imo you are limiting yourself by wanting a rotating rump bar. You cannot have a full opening crush with a rump bar and when putting a calf on the wheel is over your head. Also the crush has to have a central vertical divide to accomodate the rump bar so c sections are difficult if possible at all. I have one, both love it and hate it at the same time!
 

neilo

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
(Also... and this isn't just Morris, it does amuse me to see some of the demo' pic's showing a crush in the middle of pasture or right next to a shed door, or right in front of a silage clamp. I know it's just for looking, but you'd think they would get one in its natural environment now and then, if only by accident :rolleyes:)

To be fair, the photos mostly look to have been taken in and around their yard. I would guess the idea is to show the products, which wouldn’t be as clear if taken when covered in shite and full of cattle.;)
 

Lazy Eric

Member
It's a saracen with manual lever operated yoke with vet inspection doors on the yoke. Vet joked we should get discount on tb test for having the easiest access crush.

The reason I ask is we have a Saracen rotating rump bar crush and love it... for cesarean and suckling we have a Ritchie calving gate.
Been looking for another crush for another site, and checked out several brands and come back to the Saracen crush...for ease of use it’s just fine.... so ordered another.
 
I think your time would be spent better looking on youtube. I don't know whats in Builth but most yards will just have a selection from one manufacturer and you might not realise what tremendous features some modern crushes have. In my opinion, Bateman and IAE have been lazy and not really tried to improve their products beyond adjusting the various ways of opening sides.

A few examples to get you started, I fear the Americans are a million times better at selling their gear.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=aYevBGDsQc4


https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=9SmGmmJxMKk


https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=14&v=FoQgXlmKF2A


Straight head gates give you much better control than angled yolks.
Remember to see if you can get a grant towards it....

I look after cows for a farm where there is a Priefert, they are a horribly rattley crush, with poorly designed side access points, a terribly slippy floor and verticle bars that seem designed to get an animals hind leg caught between them.

I fail to see the fuss about a Morris crush too. I have used one a few times and was pretty disappointed after my expectations had such a huge build up from fanatical posts on here.

Premier Unistock are my choice of the bunch
 

JP1

Member
Livestock Farmer
We bought a Chieftain dual width a few years ago, very happy with it - after adding a super scoop - lot's of access, can't see suckling as a problem if you lift off a back door. Don't know how old yours was, but they have changed and improved over time.

Just looked at the beef crushes on the Morris website, they seem alright but a step down from the modern Chieftains in my view.

Slightly changing the subject, but the IAE crushes now seem the best of all IAE's kit, galvanising and engineering all very good, whereas the same can't now be said of gates and hurdles.

(Also... and this isn't just Morris, it does amuse me to see some of the demo' pic's showing a crush in the middle of pasture or right next to a shed door, or right in front of a silage clamp. I know it's just for looking, but you'd think they would get one in its natural environment now and then, if only by accident :rolleyes:)

You need to go look at the workmanship and quality of materials in a Chieftain and a Morris. Look at the design of everything including the neoprene rollers in a sliding back gate for a start.
 

Danllan

Member
Location
Sir Gar / Carms
You need to go look at the workmanship and quality of materials in a Chieftain and a Morris. Look at the design of everything including the neoprene rollers in a sliding back gate for a start.
We are very happy with the crush and scoop. I'll agree that IAE's sliding gate leaves a lot to be desired...
 

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