New EFA rules

[Banana Bar]

I'm going to be changing my cropping for 2018 away from the original plan that included beans. I may well now put a few bits into fallow to control blackgrass, is there any indication whether the use of glyphosate is going to be permitted in this position?

BB

 

[Badshot]

I'm going to be changing my cropping for 2018 away from the original plan that included beans. I may well now put a few bits into fallow to control blackgrass, is there any indication whether the use of glyphosate is going to be permitted in this position?

BB

EFA fallow is no spray till after June

 

[Brisel]

EFA fallow is no spray till after June

That is not currently true. See page 52 of the BPS rules;

Hardly onerous or restrictive, is it?

 

[cotswoldcs]

What is the position regarding EFA points and beans?

 

[Brisel]

1 ha of beans or peas = 0.7 ha of EFA for your Greening top up until now but no news on how this will be treated next year.

 

[Wombat]

EFA fallow is no spray till after June

Incorrect

 

[Wombat]

That is not currently true. See page 52 of the BPS rules;

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Hardly onerous or restrictive, is it?

Exactly, that's why we have been using it since the start. Gives us the ability to do some drainage works and control black grass while having a first wheat following it.

 

[Banana Bar]

That is not currently true. See page 52 of the BPS rules;

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Hardly onerous or restrictive, is it?

Not at all restrictive. You obviously didn't read my opening post though.

BB

 

[Brisel]

Not at all restrictive. You obviously didn't read my opening post though.

BB

Ha! I did read the OP, but as I've said above and in other threads on this topic, there is no news on the detail yet.

Ok, here's my answer to your question : No! Happy?

If the answer will be no herbicides or mechanical weed control during the EFA fallow period of 1st Jan to 30th June, along with no pesticides on pulses, what would you do for EFA instead?

 

[Hindsight]

I'm going to be changing my cropping for 2018 away from the original plan that included beans. I may well now put a few bits into fallow to control blackgrass, is there any indication whether the use of glyphosate is going to be permitted in this position?

BB

Have you tallied up lengths of hedges and ditches for watercourse buffer strips. I find these cover most requirements for EFA but I am in Lincolnshire where we tend to have several ditches.

And in some Defra statement a few weeks ago when this issue blew up there was reference to changing the weighting for these boundary features as they are favoured rather than land so it maybe hedges and buffer strips count more for 2018. As ever more detail required. And I suspect it will not be as bad as anticipated.

 

[Rob Holmes]

I'm glad I changed our EFA from pulses to hedges,

Under estimated, and over claimed and got over twice as hectares as we need. Hedges can start paying their way now!

 

[Jack Russell]

I'm glad I changed our EFA from pulses to hedges,

Under estimated, and over claimed and got over twice as hectares as we need. Hedges can start paying their way now!

The way I read this is that the change will go back to the 2017 claim. I thought it was just 2018 onwards.

 

[Rob Holmes]

It is, but, it would surprise cynical me that they would make claiming EFA's on hedges/fallow more difficult next year, maybe base next years claim on previous years?

I stress that I've not read this anywhere, just being very cynical!

 

[Hindsight]

It is, but, it would surprise cynical me that they would make claiming EFA's on hedges/fallow more difficult next year, maybe base next years claim on previous years?

I stress that I've not read this anywhere, just being very cynical!

No, I think it will be the opposite. Defra will be aware of the issue lack of pesticides on EFA and will amend the other options. That's politics. There was a report on EFA on the EU website some months ago that was shown to me and the other EU countries have mainly gone for land based options rather than boundary features - UK rather different. And thus this change is driven by that.

 

[prop13]

If Black grass is the driver have you considered Soya ? late drilled late April into May plenty of time for spraying stubble before drilling, EAMU applied for Centurian Max to control in growing crop. £400 p/ton value plus big demand for GM free soya in UK.

New variety's better suited to UK meaning late September harvest not xmas. Soya UK are scaling up seed production this year for Spring 2018

 

[Badshot]

Incorrect

Can you back that up please?


See below post for humble pie

 

[Badshot]

Incorrect

Apologies, I was going by a conversation with an agronomist. Seems he didn't know the full picture.

 

[Badshot]

I will say a friend will be pretty hacked off though, he's got a shitload of bg seeding now on the advice.

 

[Wombat]

Can you back that up please?


See below post for humble pie

Sorry wasn't meaning to be a smart arse just it's one of the reasons we did fallow was because I can spray at any time in the 6 month window plus we had an inspection last week and they didn't bother with that

 

[Badshot]

Sorry wasn't meaning to be a smart arse just it's one of the reasons we did fallow was because I can spray at any time in the 6 month window plus we had an inspection last week and they didn't bother with that

No apology required, I was wrong, thank you for correcting me. Pity my friend didn't get corrected though, it's too late now with BG shedding viable seed already.