New front door for house

ladycrofter

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Highland
Not so much the material maybe as the quality of manufacture. But to echo what @TheTallGuy said, we bought a DIY PVC patio sliding door from B&Q for part of the steading conversion, put it in ourselves (bit of a faff to be sure) but it has been every bit as good as the VERY expensive one put in the house by a national company when they did the windows. Both seem to have the same locking mechanism for insurance purposes.

Are you hanging it yourself? PVC doors are pretty heavy compared to wood.
 

renewablejohn

Member
Location
lancs
IF YOU ARE EXPECTING VISIT FROM DRUGS SQUAD GO FOR STEEL LINED AND JUST TO MAKE IT INTERESTING OPENING OUTWARDS, SURE TO DELAY THEM A WHILE

More concerned about our light fingered mobile friends. Tried to nick the MB Trac the other day. Fortunately they could not work out how to start it.
 

TheTallGuy

Member
Location
Cambridgeshire
IF YOU ARE EXPECTING VISIT FROM DRUGS SQUAD GO FOR STEEL LINED AND JUST TO MAKE IT INTERESTING OPENING OUTWARDS, SURE TO DELAY THEM A WHILE
Outward opening isn't much of a challenge these days even with multipoint locking - arguably easier than inward opening as the hinges will be accesible. What you really need is a steel lined sliding pocket door with overrun & shielded drop/lift bolts- can't be bashed in/out & no hinges to cut.
 

astra

Member
Trade
Any prices i got so far are all coming in around the same price for both which includes removal of old door and fitting of new one and making good.one sales man who only does PVC wouldn't quote me when he seen the location,he said PVC wouldn't b good enuf long term and I'd only b back onto him,thought that was honest of him..any kind of timber is a bad word in our house at the minute,I didn't even get a reply when I showed herself comment about another timber door..
 

Cowcalf

Member
Outward opening isn't much of a challenge these days even with multipoint locking - arguably easier than inward opening as the hinges will be accesible. What you really need is a steel lined sliding pocket door with overrun & shielded drop/lift bolts- can't be bashed in/out & no hinges to cut.
You credit noddy with more brains than I do !
 
Location
Suffolk
Oak is the timber NOT to use unless it is in an enclosed environment. Iroco is. Simples. Douglas fir is another reasonable material along with the better WRC (Western Red Cedar. Thuja). or a modern plastic, fully glazed as the glazing with the correct composite spacers, glass & gas fill is fine.
Gone are the days of suffering the howls of Atomic strip. It was once a solution, but sadly just soooo dated. Modern locking systems using modern materials and quality inert timber & glass is the way forward.
SS
 
Location
Suffolk
Its a standard swedish double rebate door. I will try and find some drawings and PM to you. Unfortunately has to be in oak as part of the listed building consent.
Honestly they wouldn't know the difference between oak & iroko even if it landed on their foot! Go for Iroko. Paint it with Sikkens 'light oak' or 'dark oak' Cetol 7 specialist paint. You'll regret using oak. The bl**dy door won't open in the winter & will have a gap you can walk through in the summer.....:confused:In all honesty do you want this? No I say!
SS
 

phillipe

Member
I agree whole heartily with you ,swedish oak is very slow growing so should be better than standard European oak which in turn is a lot softer than english oak ,i wouldnt have oak doors unless in a porch type enclosure
 
Honestly they wouldn't know the difference between oak & iroko even if it landed on their foot! Go for Iroko. Paint it with Sikkens 'light oak' or 'dark oak' Cetol 7 specialist paint. You'll regret using oak. The bl**dy door won't open in the winter & will have a gap you can walk through in the summer.....:confused:In all honesty do you want this? No I say!
SS

Didnt think Oak was ever much of a joiners timber traditionally dont know why they spec oak
 

renewablejohn

Member
Location
lancs
Didnt think Oak was ever much of a joiners timber traditionally dont know why they spec oak

Its because most old doors that have survived from the 16th and 17th century are made of oak. In the same way we have to have wooden gutters painted with a linseed oil based paint. You have to pick the battles you want to fight with the Listed Building Officer. In my case 3G windows. UFH and Swedish outward opening insulated doors was the priority. Agreeing to using oak was a small compromise although it has proved difficult finding a joiner capable of meeting the specification.
 

renewablejohn

Member
Location
lancs
Its a standard swedish double rebate door. I will try and find some drawings and PM to you. Unfortunately has to be in oak as part of the listed building consent.

Found the design its just like the JeTrae Plank door which is a double rebate with wood stuck either side of a metal plate. We would get the Je Trae but they dont do an outward opening version which I find a bit strange for a Danish company.
 

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