New Holland 60 series

[gwspark]

Looking for some advice on a New Holland 60 series.

The back end seems to get quite hot on road work, once it does the steering seems to get quite heavy and the gear changes deteriorate.

Any ideas welcome.

 

[Kevtherev]

Brakes sticking?
Or hydraulic pump is on way out

 

[trigger]

check the handbrake is releasing fully and the cable is ok. the back ends in these seem to get hot even at the best of times.

 

[Kevtherev]

My 8360 used to get mega hot on forager

 

[Lincsman]

Correct oil?

 

[gwspark]

Yes I know backends in these do see to get hot. It's really the steering becoming heavy after road work that bothers me. Once tractor cools a bit it is fine again.

 

[Kevtherev]

Steering part of pump needs pressure testing

 

[gwspark]

Steering part of pump needs pressure testing

Yes I would agree with this. Would be a good place to start.

 

[Timbo]

I know these & TM's can run stupid hot, there was an enlarged cooler that was part of the mod pack, yours could be fitted with that, if it's ok in all other respects. If it's running real warm all the hydraulic pumps in china aren't going to pump oil that thin....

I've know plastic parts in the back end to melt and cause untold bother, so perhaps be looking at what might be causing it to run hot and improving the cooling pack up front.

 

[Oily rag]

Theres no oil cooler upgrade for 60 series or short wheel base tm. If you hold the two buttons in on gear stick and start the engine it will tell you back end oil temp. Its quite normal to run at 80-90 degrees on hard road work. Back end filters and oil would be a good place to start but sounds like steering pump is on its way out. Cant buy it seperate from ccls pump with newholland but I think whitehouse products will supply it seperately.

 

[gwspark]

I have checked my trans temp while using the tractor, after an hour or so it was sitting at 65 which isn't overly hot. Steering felt heavy at idle at this stage already tho. Would this indicate pump wear?

 

[Oily rag]

65degrees isnt hot. Without pressure testing I cant say exactly what your problem is but if you were to strip the small piggy back pump off the msin pump my guess is the housing would br worn. Do you get a transmission warning light flicker when shuttling or changing from 6th to 7th or 12th to 13th?

 

[gwspark]

65degrees isnt hot. Without pressure testing I cant say exactly what your problem is but if you were to strip the small piggy back pump off the msin pump my guess is the housing would br worn. Do you get a transmission warning light flicker when shuttling or changing from 6th to 7th or 12th to 13th?

Yea I know 65 isn't particularly hot for these, no I don't get a flicker of the light. That's the small pump in front of the main pump isn't it that ur talking about?

 

[Oily rag]

Yea thats the one.

 

[gwspark]

65degrees isnt hot. Without pressure testing I cant say exactly what your problem is but if you were to strip the small piggy back pump off the msin pump my guess is the housing would br worn. Do you get a transmission warning light flicker when shuttling or changing from 6th to 7th or 12th to 13th?

Update.....

Actually noticed the low pressure warning light flicker tonight when shuttling. What does this mean??

 

[Oily rag]

Transmission oil pressure low.runs off return from steering.

 

[gwspark]

Transmission oil pressure low.runs off return from steering.

I see now, so if pump isn't going it's job that's why I get this. I may pressure test pump and go from there. Where abouts on pump do I test?

 

[Oily rag]

Bit rusty on 60 series but I think you have to tee in above the regulating valve on the way out of the top of that pump.post a picture if your unsure.

 

[Eire t5]

I have a tm 150 range command doing the same thing , when warm if you turn on the 4 wheel drive she sounds under pressure , humming like noise , how much is pump and where

 

[gwspark]

Bit rusty on 60 series but I think you have to tee in above the regulating valve on the way out of the top of that pump.post a picture if your unsure.

Thanks. Will see how I get on [emoji4]