New limits to SFI.

[bobk]

I was a bit daft with my application , if T had used my head the lot should have gone in sfi instead of 25%
Clearly others were bolder , hence defra now running out of money for the scheme
The weather has been a massive factor in decisions imo

 

[J 1177]

I was a bit daft with my application , if T had used my head the lot should have gone in sfi instead of 25%
Clearly others were bolder , hence defra now running out of money for the scheme
The weather has been a massive factor in decisions imo

Has for me

 

[Nearly]

But also possibly bad luck that in 3 years new capped levels and no workforce or machinery as they are all going down the road this year

but it has been established that rpa can reduce area rates anyway for everyone, without notice.

 

[gone up the hill]

On another note, trust. Janet Hughes stated on here that they wanted to build relationships with farmers, lighter touch etc. Well thats out of the window in all of 5 seconds. SAME OLD DEFRA. Not to be trusted.

Anything Janet Hughes gets involved with turns into a complete disaster!

LIS being one such example!

I would say after today the trust in Defra by farmers will never have been lower than it is tonight!

They have certainly utterly shafted grassland/ livestock farmers today and most will have no way of recovering their lost SFP let alone the costs of the SFI options now that the high paying ones have been limited to 25% and more importantly they have made those high paying options unworkable on many farms now you cannot put whole parcels of land into say AHL2 for example

 

[gone up the hill]

but it has been established that rpa can reduce area rates anyway for everyone, without notice.

Yes and they will do that next!

Certainly for farms that have put in more than 25% of their land intp the options capped today!

 

[Steevo]

On another note, trust. Janet Hughes stated on here that they wanted to build relationships with farmers, lighter touch etc. Well thats out of the window in all of 5 seconds. SAME OLD DEFRA. Not to be trusted.

Consistently inconsistent.

 

[J 1177]

Consistently inconsistent.

Cluster f**k

 

[le bon paysan]

Looking at the problem you're facing, may I ask a question. If sfi was not about what would you be doing?
Planting spring crops or going fallow.
I my humble opinion this scheme should be closed. People in it be paid as their contracts says. A new scheme should be opened next year with % rates worked out and how much to an upper limit per farm. ie £10000 max.
I am available for a small(ish) fee plus expenses.
Oh sh!t this will probably not work because there's a general election coming soon

 

[L P]

I think AHL2 can be a better break than Num3, certainly better for black grass.

My AB9s clean of black grass, AB15 not so.

Num 3 can at least be rotated annually and topped at any point for bg as opposed to ab15 which is 2 years and can't be topped I second year? Take the £593/ha out of the equation and no farmer would choose ab9 over the good the clover/legume does for the ground

 

[bobk]

I'll bet Jeremy Hunt is the culprit here

 

[e3120]

Phew - @Clive can stand the lawyers down. Better retrieve the rapeseed dresser from the scrapman, though. Funny how some are always lucky....

What chance of mere mortals getting simple apps back for month end that are held up with submission errors, when the system is down and staff bombarded?

 

[Flatland guy]

So farmers are now wrong for caring for the environment and certain species. What actually is it DEFRA want farmers to do??

 

[frederick]

Anything Janet Hughes gets involved with turns into a complete disaster!

LIS being one such example!

I would say after today the trust in Defra by farmers will never have been lower than it is tonight!

They have certainly utterly shafted grassland/ livestock farmers today and most will have no way of recovering their lost SFP let alone the costs of the SFI options now that the high paying ones have been limited to 25% and more importantly they have made those high paying options unworkable on many farms now you cannot put whole parcels of land into say AHL2 for example

What have I missed in this. As far as I was concerned the grassland options available to me were Sam3 and clover. Neither of those have been altered.

 

[Steevo]

So farmers are now wrong for caring for the environment and certain species. What actually is it DEFRA want farmers to do??

Take the blame.

 

[J 1177]

So farmers are now wrong for caring for the environment and certain species. What actually is it DEFRA want farmers to do??

Feck knows

 

[richard hammond]

Government ensures food production remains primary purpose of farming

The government is introducing new measures to limit the amount of land farmers can take out of productive actions under the Sustainable Farming Incentive (SFI)

www.gov.uk

Bloody hell, surprise, surprise!! it was always going to happen, easy money not made easy!! and I bet they defer large agreements , hope I am wrong..

 

[richard hammond]

Take the blame.

or have we taken the pee!! of a scheme that was never going to survive,,

 

[J 1177]

Bloody hell, surprise, surprise!! it was always going to happen, easy money not made easy!! and I bet they defer large agreements , hope I am wrong..

Bet some of these big estates that have told their tennants to feck off are delighted

 

[ploughman1963]

If 1% triggered this change of heart, that 1% of applicants must have represented a fair old hectarage??

 

[Flatland guy]

Bloody hell, surprise, surprise!! it was always going to happen, easy money not made easy!! and I bet they defer large agreements , hope I am wrong..

Honestly cannot blame any applicants, blame those who devised the system if they only wanted a certain % in certain options should have said at outset. Whether those already committed feel smug or looking over shoulder for inspections I am not sure.