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[thorpe]

i bet it wouldn’t. I’ve used plenty of 8 series deeres without suspension and you couldn’t give me one.

FFS i know thing's move on and i don't want to sound like my old man as he started off with an international 10-20, i started with a nuffield DM4 . surly those deere's wern't that bad?

 

[Daniel]

You must have a hen or two…there’s a few omelettes worth of eggs there How long is it running like that for a day?

64k hens. Theoretically a bit under two hours, but in reality the two staff will be moving pallets, walking the hens etc through the morning. Would hope to have eggs packed and all the sheds walked and basic stockmanship tasks done in 4 hours with 2 people when we’ve fully got to grips with it.

 

[Richard Smyth]

FFS i know thing's move on and i don't want to sound like my old man as he started off with an international 10-20, i started with a nuffield DM4 . surly those deere's wern't that bad?

Buy one and find out for your self. 8420, 8320, 8100, 8300, 8400 all useless as far as I’m concerned

 

[ollie989898]

Buy one and find out for your self. 8420, 8320, 8100, 8300, 8400 all useless as far as I’m concerned

What did you find so wrong with them?

 

[Richard Smyth]

What did you find so wrong with them?

They cannot put power to the ground without bouncing. Sandy soil, all sorts of tyre combinations, different pressures and different weight setup, made no difference. Just constantly bouncing.

never had an issue with suspended front axle tractors.

 

[Deerefarmer]

Never been on a deere that didn't bounce and hop. Even with ils and 30 bazillion grease nipples to keep it working . Test drove a 7k hr 8r recently that should have gotten me an award for staying in the seat for 8 seconds
I mentioned the hours because we have fendts with similar hours and same suspension setup minus grease nipples that actually work and are a pleasure to operate

 

[James]

They cannot put power to the ground without bouncing. Sandy soil, all sorts of tyre combinations, different pressures and different weight setup, made no difference. Just constantly bouncing.

never had an issue with suspended front axle tractors.

Agreed found the same when I spent some time driving a 8410. Still liked it though especially the noise on a cold start

 

[Tom8400]

There was me thinking you were a wuss and were claiming the lack of suspension led them to being bouncy on the road, which they certainly are Front suspension cured that.

However in the field the suspension isn't needed, just a active seat from a comfort point of view far better than the suspension. The cab noise is more of a problem.


It's a shame they aren't hated by more people, they wouldn't be so sought after then maybe able to find a 20 series too

 

[Andy26]

There was me thinking you were a wuss and were claiming the lack of suspension led them to being bouncy on the road, which they certainly are Front suspension cured that.

However in the field the suspension isn't needed, just a active seat from a comfort point of view far better than the suspension. The cab noise is more of a problem.


It's a shame they aren't hated by more people, they wouldn't be so sought after then maybe able to find a 20 series too

You get 'power hop' with no front suspension.

JD explain it well here:

 

[bumkin]

Dunno to be honest. They just seem to be less strangled than they are now . But it's also job dependant the older ones have more low down power newer ones need more revs to get power so revs usually equal wheel slip when going gets tricky.

I was ploughing a wet bit the other day and needed lots of momentum to get through a soft patch the old 185 hp tractor went up another gear and got going about 14k going into it and dragged it through at speed. My 220 hp vario honestly wouldn't muster up 10k going into it and would give up halfway through

we have a 7820 i agree its suspension is not as good as the newer ones but when it comes to power it just keeps giving whereas the newer ones with their tier 3 engine and ad blue give in if you lose a few revs in a bit of stiff ground it seem that all modern tractors are the same we also have an old maxum and you could put her at a bit of stiff going from flat out she would drop down to 1000 rpm and climb back up the r series J D if it drops 200rpm it gives up

 

[Richard Smyth]

Agreed found the same when I spent some time driving a 8410. Still liked it though especially the noise on a cold start

They were ok when we knew nothing better. Things have moved on thankfully though.

 

[Richard Smyth]

we have a 7820 i agree its suspension is not as good as the newer ones but when it comes to power it just keeps giving whereas the newer ones with their tier 3 engine and ad blue give in if you lose a few revs in a bit of stiff ground it seem that all modern tractors are the same we also have an old maxum and you could put her at a bit of stiff going from flat out she would drop down to 1000 rpm and climb back up the r series J D if it drops 200rpm it gives up

Funny the worst I’ve ever used for dropping off a cliff at low rpm was a 6810 Deere. On a spud harvester it was pathetic. New holland tm would walk past it every day

 

[cows sh#t me to tears]

Best lugging motor ever built. 504 in the 2090 series case. Would pull down to 800rpm. Unfortunately from the flywheel back they were a timebomb.

 

[Gerbert]

But atleast you're not relying on a computer for it to work.

You are having a laugh right? The 8000 series are totally fly by wire. A computer for the engine, for the transmission, for the hydraulic valves, for the hitch. And I am sure I forgot some.

 

[thorpe]

FFS i know thing's move on and i don't want to sound like my old man as he started off with an international 10-20, i started with a nuffield DM4 . surly those deere's wern't that bad?

 

[tractorsandcows]

They cannot put power to the ground without bouncing. Sandy soil, all sorts of tyre combinations, different pressures and different weight setup, made no difference. Just constantly bouncing.

never had an issue with suspended front axle tractors.

Maybe its because your in australia and some kangaroo dna got in the manufacturing process

 

[Flat 10]

90K on a trinket?

I can accept having a big old horse in the back of the shed to trundle around and keep for old times sake but 90 big ones?

That kind of money could buy wide range of cool toys. A Valtra, even.

I was told it was bought to use by someone who should know. Headed SE I think.

 

[Bob lincs]

Picked up this state of the art slightly shop soiled transport system for the beet drill today , new stub shafts and wheels coming tomorrow as them ones fitted have seen better days . May even give it a coat of paint .

 

[ollie989898]

View attachment 1166798View attachment 1166799Picked up this state of the art slightly shop soiled transport system for the beet drill today , new stub shafts and wheels coming tomorrow as them ones fitted have seen better days . May even give it a coat of paint .

Nice little resto project there. New hydraulic line, clean, prep and pain and two half decent sized wheels and she'd be golden.

 

[Chae1]

View attachment 1166798View attachment 1166799Picked up this state of the art slightly shop soiled transport system for the beet drill today , new stub shafts and wheels coming tomorrow as them ones fitted have seen better days . May even give it a coat of paint .

I thought it was going to be that 8410!