New trailer

[M-J-G]

Yes but that's the problem of what we're selling, the rest of the country has been subject to inflation!

It doesn't change the fact that there is a growing difference.

 

[Poorbuthappy]

Any reasons to go tandem over tri axle? I’m thinking of upgrading from a 12ft twin to a 14’ tri, I only carry sheep..

Staying legal?
But that refers to the 14' bit as much as the tri axle.

 

[Al R]

Staying legal?
But that refers to the 14' bit as much as the tri axle.

Yeah a lot of the time you could go overweight but luckily for me I don’t tend to go more than 3 mile with full loads and the tractor has it then as usually cross country/fields.. apart from the added 200kg for the extra 2’ it’s only 40kg for the axles.

 

[Poorbuthappy]

Yeah a lot of the time you could go overweight but luckily for me I don’t tend to go more than 3 mile with full loads and the tractor has it then as usually cross country/fields.. apart from the added 200kg for the extra 2’ it’s only 40kg for the axles.
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Fair enough but it's easy enough to overload a 12' with sheep.
And tractor drawn is no more legal as you can't get a bolt on ball hitch rated at more than 3.5T. Least, I couldn't find one when I was considering it.

 

[Al R]

Fair enough but it's easy enough to overload a 12' with sheep.
And tractor drawn is no more legal as you can't get a bolt on ball hitch rated at more than 3.5T. Least, I couldn't find one when I was considering it.

But if you don’t overload it on the road there’s no rule to be broken? I’ve lost count of how many 18t trailers I’ve seen carrying 23t of wheat, fine if not on the road..

 

[neilo]

Excellent trailers.
I'd buy one for cattle as they are the only ones which you can access from the front to get the cattle out without being in with them;

Don’t most trailers have access/inspection doors on the front /corner? I thought it was a legal requirement for some reason.

 

[Jackov Altraids]

Don’t most trailers have access/inspection doors on the front /corner? I thought it was a legal requirement for some reason.

They do a trailer with a section at the front so you can go in but be separate from the cattle;

I thought it was a bloody good idea. Easy to load with doors open and safer to unload aswell.

 

[Green farmer]

They’d probably be the lightest in their class

Fair enough. I’m similar to yourself, in that I use a heavy diesal saloon car for my towing. Just fill a 8x5 ( without decks) with sheep and away I go.

 

[GET]

If any one wants to try a GE power deck, please phone Shaun on 01759 373062 option 4, as we have a demo trailer we are willing to loan out for demos

 

[Jackov Altraids]

Any reasons to go tandem over tri axle? I’m thinking of upgrading from a 12ft twin to a 14’ tri, I only carry sheep..

I think you have to have triples if under for stability but tandems outside are a good option.
If you spend most of your time on good roads then triples may be better but tandems will have the advantage of much less scrubbing, larger tandem wheels will travel better off road and the axles are higher rated for when one takes all the weight.
I also fear that the general law of physics means that triples are more likely to 'push-on' as the trailer is going to be more set on holding a straight line.

 

[neilo]

They do a trailer with a section at the front so you can go in but be separate from the cattle;
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I thought it was a bloody good idea. Easy to load with doors open and safer to unload aswell.

That’s certainly a novel idea. I can’t say I’ve ever had any issue getting cattle out of a trailer though, or certainly none that a yard of truth waving through the vent couldn’t sort anyway.

 

[S J H]

I think you have to have triples if under for stability but tandems outside are a good option.
If you spend most of your time on good roads then triples may be better but tandems will have the advantage of much less scrubbing, larger tandem wheels will travel better off road and the axles are higher rated for when one takes all the weight.
I also fear that the general law of physics means that triples are more likely to 'push-on' as the trailer is going to be more set on holding a straight line.

Fathers has a tri axle, I've had it push a defender 90 and it does scrub. When I tow my tandem, it does feel a lot lighter, and as you say, it will travel better on field.

 

[neilo]

Fathers has a tri axle, I've had it push a defender 90 and it does scrub. When I tow my tandem, it does feel a lot lighter, and as you say, it will travel better on field.

I used to have a 14’ Ifor with wheels under, and it could certainly give you ‘a shove’ if I turned off the main road, downhill onto a loose scalping track at anything more than a crawl.
I now have a 14’ Gamic triaxle with (larger) wheels on the outside. It tows far more easily and doesn’t give that ‘push’. Tyres last much longer too.

 

[Al R]

I used to have a 14’ Ifor with wheels under, and it could certainly give you ‘a shove’ if I turned off the main road, downhill onto a loose scalping track at anything more than a crawl.
I now have a 14’ Gamic triaxle with (larger) wheels on the outside. It tows far more easily and doesn’t give that ‘push’. Tyres last much longer too.

@Jackov Altraids i’d only go wheels outside, there’s a lot of be said for always having 2 spares?
I do find with my twin axle now that if she’s full and I’m coming through inclined gateways that I’m whincing as all of the weight is on 1 wheel while the other free wheels. Is this worse with a tri? I take it turning radius is no worse but do you get tail swing with a tri or is that more to with being 14ft as opposed to 12 that doesn’t?

 

[Boydvalley]

Any reasons to go tandem over tri axle? I’m thinking of upgrading from a 12ft twin to a 14’ tri, I only carry sheep..

14’ tandem wheels outside Ifor here sheep only. No problems tows well. Have to make sure you partition correctly as rear section is larger for balance. Maybe a bit harder on the rear suspension on uneven ground but a lot less drag than tri axles that I’ve used. 40kg for the extra axle is one less lamb.
Extra 2ft well worth it for carrying stores. Ewes have plenty of room! Folding front flap makes loading lambs easier.
Big bonus on the Ifor is bottom centre partition can be left open when dropping the deck. Had to shut it on the 12ft.

 

[Jackov Altraids]

@Jackov Altraids i’d only go wheels outside, there’s a lot of be said for always having 2 spares?
I do find with my twin axle now that if she’s full and I’m coming through inclined gateways that I’m whincing as all of the weight is on 1 wheel while the other free wheels. Is this worse with a tri? I take it turning radius is no worse but do you get tail swing with a tri or is that more to with being 14ft as opposed to 12 that doesn’t?

Good questions which I'm not really qualified to answer.
My 14' tandem tows perfectly well. The axles are higher rated than the triples so I feel happier when the weight is all on one.
I think wheels outside make it at least as stable as triples under.
There is no wrong or right, just what is most suitable for your own needs.
If you move cattle a lot then a wider box is good so they have room to turn and a 6' box with wheels outside would be too wide for the roads I travel.
If you would only use decks once a year,they probably aren't worth having unless that 1 trip is 400 miles. I would want to be using decks at least fortnitely to justify the cost of hydraulic.

 

[Al R]

14’ tandem wheels outside Ifor here sheep only. No problems tows well. Have to make sure you partition correctly as rear section is larger for balance. Maybe a bit harder on the rear suspension on uneven ground but a lot less drag than tri axles that I’ve used. 40kg for the extra axle is one less lamb.
Extra 2ft well worth it for carrying stores. Ewes have plenty of room! Folding front flap makes loading lambs easier.
Big bonus on the Ifor is bottom centre partition can be left open when dropping the deck. Had to shut it on the 12ft.

On my nugent 12’ there is a thou spare so the gate on the bottom or top can be open so if only going very short distance you can leave the gates open but still load the top and bottom..

@Jackov Altraids you’d go twin axle outside on 14ft on sheep only work then? My lanes are quite tight too.

 

[Nithsdale]

Any reasons to go tandem over tri axle? I’m thinking of upgrading from a 12ft twin to a 14’ tri, I only carry sheep..

If sheep only I'd happily go 14' twin axle with wheels on outside. A trailer is much more evenly loaded when sheep are on (unless it's a part load) and stable, so 4 wheels are all that's needed.


I imagine with cattle it'd be a different story, though

 

[Fendt516profi]

14’ tandem wheels outside Ifor here sheep only. No problems tows well. Have to make sure you partition correctly as rear section is larger for balance. Maybe a bit harder on the rear suspension on uneven ground but a lot less drag than tri axles that I’ve used. 40kg for the extra axle is one less lamb.
Extra 2ft well worth it for carrying stores. Ewes have plenty of room! Folding front flap makes loading lambs easier.
Big bonus on the Ifor is bottom centre partition can be left open when dropping the deck. Had to shut it on the 12ft.

Looks like the Extra axle and wheels are 145kg.

 

[hendrebc]

If sheep only I'd happily go 14' twin axle with wheels on outside. A trailer is much more evenly loaded when sheep are on (unless it's a part load) and stable, so 4 wheels are all that's needed.


I imagine with cattle it'd be a different story, though

With cattle you really need 2 division gates so you can shut them over the axles. I have on mine and it makes a big difference. I imagine it would make even more difference on a 14 foot trailer than on my 12 foot one. Think it was only an extra £100 or something.