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[feelinggood]

guys, apologies for already asking this, but Im still looking for an inverter stick welder for farm use and something capable of fabrication,
a welder friend of mine has suggested im over doing it looking for amps around 200 and a thermalarc 17 will do me all day long

question is,
thermal arc 175 - 190+v
jasic 200 300+v
gys 200 300+v

good and bad points for above

 

[4755dave]

Mate has a jasic and loves it, really rates product and service

 

[fermerboy]

If you are fabricating stuff in the workshop with clean new metal then get a Might. If on the other hand you are in a draughty shed sticking rusty stuff back together because you or somebody has wrecked it then get a stick welder.
Of course there is an overlap in use and each can do both work. Only you can say what sort of workload you will have.
Generally a inverter stick welder is a good all round machine and will be capable of most farm work. 180 ish amps will weld a lot of different stuff together. More is better as you will be working machine less near its limit.
I've a 180 Jasic that so far is a good wee tool.
I also have a Lincoln mig which I far prefer most of the time if I'm making barriers/gates etc.

 

[davidroberts30]

what rods are you using??
3.2mm rods only need 130amps to run

if you need any more you need to prep the steel and do stringer runs

 

[feelinggood]

ive a 200 mig in the workshop.
stick welding ive only had a crappy buzzbox up til now running 2.5s.
so if the jasic 180 better than thermalarc 175 or whats the story with them? ta

 

[casemx 270]

Gas Mig all the way spend time cleaning your metal and preparing the joints but to weld bigger stuff you need plenty of power so that makes a big mig less moveable around the yard

 

[fermerboy]

ive a 200 mig in the workshop.
stick welding ive only had a crappy buzzbox up til now running 2.5s.
so if the jasic 180 better than thermalarc 175 or whats the story with them? ta

Don't think you could go wrong with any of the ones you listed.
I got a Jasic from @Welding Supplies Direct on here as they had a good deal on to TFF members at the time. Comes in a case and 5 yr warranty.
Usually use 3.2mm rods with it but it devours a 4mm rod no bother with amps to spare.

 

[feelinggood]

thanks , the jasic looks like a tasty bit of kit
are the 180 and 200 jasic fit to run of a genny?
Im not stuck on buying with local store if there is a better machine, is there much between the jasic 180, thermal175 @Welding Supplies Direct

 

[Welding Supplies Direct]

The Jasic 180 was made specifically to compete with the Thermal Arc 175 as they are so popular. If I'm honest I don't know which i'd choose between the two, the advantage of the Jasic is that it has a longer warranty and better UK support.

 

[joe soapy]

thanks , the jasic looks like a tasty bit of kit
are the 180 and 200 jasic fit to run of a genny?
Im not stuck on buying with local store if there is a better machine, is there much between the jasic 180, thermal175 @Welding Supplies Direct

You can run off a genny but be aware of the limitations, 2.7 KV will just about run a 10g rod, neede 6KV+ to be master of the job..
Shop around for a jasic, its very competitive out there. And kit yourself out with 16 amp plugs and sockets from the getgo

 

[Al R]

Has anyone used a Parweld xts 162?

Does anyone know if there’s any full startup Christmas packages going?
I’ve welded quite a bit before with Arc (mainly 4.0 and 3.2 rods) moved home and there’s no welder here. Predominantly 13amp sockets but I have asked the electrician to put in 110v in 3 different units.
Single phase only - 3 phase stops 4 mile away.

 

[davidroberts30]

Has anyone used a Parweld xts 162?

Does anyone know if there’s any full startup Christmas packages going?
I’ve welded quite a bit before with Arc (mainly 4.0 and 3.2 rods) moved home and there’s no welder here. Predominantly 13amp sockets but I have asked the electrician to put in 110v in 3 different units.
Single phase only - 3 phase stops 4 mile away.

Why you want 110v??

16 or 32 amp sockets on 240v you need

 

[Warp Land Farmer]

Has anyone used a Parweld xts 162?

Does anyone know if there’s any full startup Christmas packages going?
I’ve welded quite a bit before with Arc (mainly 4.0 and 3.2 rods) moved home and there’s no welder here. Predominantly 13amp sockets but I have asked the electrician to put in 110v in 3 different units.
Single phase only - 3 phase stops 4 mile away.

@Welding Supplies Direct has an offer on these 162's, I'm very tempted myself for one

 

[Al R]

Why you want 110v??

16 or 32 amp sockets on 240v you need

My uncle has an old - make unidentifiable and hasn’t been used in 12 years in our shed and that’s on a yellow 110 type plug so i’d Assumed that it couldn’t run on 13amp if it’s on those plugs and it’s definetly not an inverter welder.

@Warp Land Farmer thats what I’m looking at but hadn’t seen the offer when I posted earlier...

Are the standard electrode holders any good? I’ve only ever used the twist head types.

 

[Warp Land Farmer]

My uncle has an old - make unidentifiable and hasn’t been used in 12 years in our shed and that’s on a yellow 110 type plug so i’d Assumed that it couldn’t run on 13amp if it’s on those plugs and it’s definetly not an inverter welder.

@Warp Land Farmer thats what I’m looking at but hadn’t seen the offer when I posted earlier...

Are the standard electrode holders any good? I’ve only ever used the twist head types.

I've heard good things about them, the deal,seems good to me, I suppose it comes down to a combination of what you want the welder to do, what you want to spend and in what conditions it will work in - I'm going to have a punt on one I think + I've not read any negative remarks about the retailer mentioned so believe they are reputable and dont sell carp.

 

[SilliamWhale]

Has anyone used a Parweld xts 162?

Does anyone know if there’s any full startup Christmas packages going?
I’ve welded quite a bit before with Arc (mainly 4.0 and 3.2 rods) moved home and there’s no welder here. Predominantly 13amp sockets but I have asked the electrician to put in 110v in 3 different units.
Single phase only - 3 phase stops 4 mile away.

I run my inverter welder off 13 amp without any problems.

 

[Warp Land Farmer]

I run my inverter welder off 13 amp without any problems.

What rods do you use & do you weld with it?

 

[SilliamWhale]

What rods do you use & do you weld with it?

Up to 3.2mm generally. Never used 4mm. Im not welding day in day out just doing bits and bobs. Rarely run it for longer than 2 hours.

 

[Warp Land Farmer]

Up to 3.2mm generally. Never used 4mm. Im not welding day in day out just doing bits and bobs. Rarely run it for longer than 2 hours.

What brand / model?

 

[Ley253]

Gas Mig all the way spend time cleaning your metal and preparing the joints but to weld bigger stuff you need plenty of power so that makes a big mig less moveable around the yard

Mig out in the yard! Wind doesnt blow where you live then. Mig is for indoor factory work, Stick for outside repairs and fabrication. Also, mig in unskilled hands is very dangerous, so easy to have a good looking weld, which is just stuck on top! With a stick plant, a poor weld looks poor!