New Wheat Varieties

[texelburger]

Just wondering if many got to view local trials ,recently,and what your thoughts are on candidate varieties. I,for various reasons, was unable to visit any this year due to silaging,holidaying etc so would appreciate anyone's opinions.
Our killer disease is Septoria so am looking for varieties showing the best resistance.
TIA

 

[Wombat]

I liked Bamford at both the trials I saw it in. I had already booked 3 tonne but looked good.

if you want good disease resistance then champion is good. I have some champion that’s had zero fungicide as I direct drilled grass in it to whole crop after 80% of the field failed and it will get to ear and look quite good . Not the best bushel and bairstow yielded better last year but for disease it’s very good

 

[texelburger]

I liked Bamford at both the trials I saw it in. I had already booked 3 tonne but looked good.

if you want good disease resistance then champion is good. I have some champion that’s had zero fungicide as I direct drilled grass in it to whole crop after 80% of the field failed and it will get to ear and look quite good . Not the best bushel and bairstow yielded better last year but for disease it’s very good

Yes,I've got some Champion blended with Extase(just my own idea and blend) which looks good but disease levels in Extase seems to be getting worse.
Has anyone seen LG Rebellion in trials ?

 

[cquick]

Yes,I've got some Champion blended with Extase(just my own idea and blend) which looks good but disease levels in Extase seems to be getting worse.
Has anyone seen LG Rebellion in trials ?

Rebellion is very leggy and seemed quite poor disease wise.
Keep an eye out for LG Henri next year. No seed available as of yet but looked very clean indeed in the untreated plots. This was at Taunton so plenty of septoria kicking around.
A few more one hit wonders coming from the KWS stable. Nothing else really stood out

 

[Dman2]

What are people growing Up North, and I mean North East of England not Manchester
Have Graham which looks ok, Dawsum which looks ok but looking for another 1st wheat option??

 

[jackrussell101]

LG Beowulf

 

[Iben]

Have Bamford and beowulf ordered.

Dawsum first time this year is very yellow, so will hold judgement on that.

 

[texelburger]

Rebellion is very leggy and seemed quite poor disease wise.
Keep an eye out for LG Henri next year. No seed available as of yet but looked very clean indeed in the untreated plots. This was at Taunton so plenty of septoria kicking around.
A few more one hit wonders coming from the KWS stable. Nothing else really stood out

Thanks

 

[teslacoils]

Will stick with Gleam.

 

[bobk]

The choice is a joke , breeders breeding sub standard shite . all at behest of agchem suppliers

 

[Wombat]

The choice is a joke , breeders breeding sub standard shite . all at behest of agchem suppliers

Adhb got my views on their recommended list at both Cereals and Groundswell. Along the lines of with ipm why are we letting sh!t septoria versions and varieties that offer nothing on the list in this day and age . We want to use less chemicals not more and they should be much more ruthless

 

[bobk]

Adhb got my views on their recommended list at both Cereals and Groundswell. Along the lines of with ipm why are we letting sh!t septoria versions and varieties that offer nothing on the list. We want to use less chemicals not more and they should be much more ruthless

Every new variety I've tried has been absolute filth

 

[APJ]

Champion and typhoon again here they’ve done well in a difficult season, Dawsum looks awful didn’t impress me last yr either when it failed to stand up.

lg Beowulf will get a try as the new kid this season!

 

[Hindsight]

Adhb got my views on their recommended list at both Cereals and Groundswell. Along the lines of with ipm why are we letting sh!t septoria versions and varieties that offer nothing on the list in this day and age . We want to use less chemicals not more and they should be much more ruthless

The Septoria resistance scores are clearly documented in the Recommended List. The information is thus available If that is your sole criteria then select accordingly.

 

[redsloe]

Mayflower and Palladium cleaner than Champion here.
Same in the local trials.
Early days yet though.

 

[Wombat]

The Septoria resistance scores are clearly documented in the Recommended List. The information is thus available If that is your sole criteria then select accordingly.

My point was more there are a lot of indistinguishable varieties. in the main groups. For say a milling wheat we might have to but in the main Should we we letting varieties into the list that have low disease characteristics and offer 1% or equivalent on say yield. For me no.

 

[cquick]

My point was more there are a lot of indistinguishable varieties. in the main groups. For say a milling wheat we might have to but in the main Should we we letting varieties into the list that have low disease characteristics and offer 1% or equivalent on say yield. For me no.

It certainly used to be the case there were so many middle of the road also-ran varieties, I'm surprised anyone grew them. But I think the more recent lists have culled a lot of them.

In terms of varieties I'm growing, Redwald and Mayflower have been very clean indeed. Redwald hasn't shown big disease resistance in trials, but I think the Sundance parentage is showing through in-field.
Mayflower had basically zero Septoria despite having nothing at T1, and a medium rate Univoq T2. I did have to clean up some brown rust at t3 but it was quite a slow-moving infection. Lesions were there but didn't spread anywhere near as fast as on the neighbouring Champion.

I'm dropping Champion, it's much worse for BYDV compared to everything else. Either it is more attractive to aphids or more susceptible to the virus. It also took a lot more to keep the brown rust out of it, and while I'm sure it's not great for lodging, it seems to strike the fear of God into any agronomist, which means it receives much more PGR than strictly necessary.
Its older cousin Olympus looks good however, and I'll be including it in some blends next season.

Bought a bit of Beowulf for next season to try as well.

 

[Fish]

re Bamford, be aware that there maybe a problem with rust in the north east area, the plots at croft didn't look very good, and a trial north of there had a similar problem.
Having said that, will be growing Bamford, Beowulf, Dawsom and Mayflower.

 

[fudge]

The Septoria resistance scores are clearly documented in the Recommended List. The information is thus available If that is your sole criteria then select accordingly.

I do think @Wombat has a point,the shelf life of modern varieties seems very short! Perhaps it's just because I am getting old!

 

[David.]

It's a race to get some royalties in on these here today gone tomorrow varieties, with all the lavish advertising, before they are found out.
I can't see bettering Gleam/Dawsum for next Yr.