New Zealand lamb - how do they do it?

[S J H]

Hls and bps cross co,mpliance is the problem for me otherwise apart from drought I agee but rumour has they get dry times there too

Very true,

What does a 17kg lamb make deadweight in NZ?

What does a breeding ewe lamb cost in NZ?

How many 17kg lambs can one of those livestock 8-wheeler + drawbar combinations move?

They're 17kg dead, so 37kgs live.

The thing I can never understand is that buyers here don't seem to want them at 37kgs.

Another point to add, would be that they never feel the back for finish, the buyers would only feel the ribs for cover.

 

[S J H]

they do keep it quiet

Are you getting at the weakness of the dollar?

 

[Henarar]

Very true,

They're 17kg dead, so 37kgs live.

The thing I can never understand is that buyers here don't seem to want them at 37kgs.

they don't trim as hard over there then
@gone up the hill

 

[JP1]

Very true,

They're 17kg dead, so 37kgs live.

The thing I can never understand is that buyers here don't seem to want them at 37kgs.

Another point to add, would be that they never feel the back for finish, the buyers would only feel the ribs for cover.

Sorry I meant how much does a 17kg deadweight lamb make when bought by the processor

 

[Henarar]

Are you getting at the weakness of the dollar?

no subs were never stopped they were just changed

 

[texel-tom]

It's on my 'to do' list. I wish I'd gone when I was young but I didn't have time then.

Trying my best to persuade my sons to go but they don't have time either.

It's a great country, definitely worth seeing should the opportunity and time become available

 

[S J H]

Sorry I meant how much does a 17kg deadweight lamb make when bought by the processor

Sorry @JP1 I read that completely wrong. Lack of sleep

 

[S J H]

no subs were never stopped they were just changed

Please explain.

 

[Henarar]

Please explain.

can't say to much, they send the boys round

 

[FonterraFarmer]

Hold on David John, don't put words in my mouth. If I want to have a pop at the Kiwis I will, but if you read the post it's an objective assessment.

That you can do but expect us to reciprocate the guesture when required, but notice those who have been here on farm tend to be more enlightened and objective than those who haven't. Did anyone else see Country Calendar last night?

 

[willy]

If you believe in "Endless grass", I'd guess you also believe in the tooth fairy, the fairy godfather and that funny little irish bloke at the end of the rainbow with a pot of gold that I can't spell!!!

Yes i have, 2 things that struck me were, the ground could have 100mm of rain in the night and the day after the cows could go out and hardly make a mess, soil is very porus( i know this has its down side, regards drought, but stock always does better with little grass and dry ground than wet ground up to there eyes in wet shite)

Other thing is i hardly saw a sheep, so i suppose they were in the more extensive areas where not too many people are poking there noses into low input sheep production techniques i.e. Phone rings there a ewe lambing near the road and the lamb isnt moving.

So i would say NZ has advantages, but i still beleive we should follow there ideas but adapt slightly for our system and culture.

 

[FonterraFarmer]

Yes i have, 2 things that struck me were, the ground could have 100mm of rain in the night and the day after the cows could go out and hardly make a mess, soil is very porus( i know this has its down side, regards drought, but stock always does better with little grass and dry ground than wet ground up to there eyes in wet shite)

Other thing is i hardly saw a sheep, so i suppose they were in the more extensive areas where not too many people are poking there noses into low input sheep production techniques i.e. Phone rings there a ewe lambing near the road and the lamb isnt moving.

So i would say NZ has advantages, but i still beleive we should follow there ideas but adapt slightly for our system and culture.

You do realise not all of NZ is like Canturbury? Try farming in Northland, Hawkes Bay ,Westland ,Central Otago or Southland, there all different!!!

 

[GTB]

Yes i have, 2 things that struck me were, the ground could have 100mm of rain in the night and the day after the cows could go out and hardly make a mess, soil is very porus( i know this has its down side, regards drought, but stock always does better with little grass and dry ground than wet ground up to there eyes in wet shite)

A friend goes out there to scan sheep and this is what he always says. Even in the middle of winter it can pee down for days and a mob of ewes on root crops won't get nearly as wet and muddy as they would here. He also says each farm tends to keep more sheep or cattle than here but on much bigger farms. It would be very expensive to buy a big enough block of land here to graze several/tens of thousands of ewes or a thousand or two spring calving dairy cows for example.

 

[willy]

You do realise not all of NZ is like Canturbury? Try farming in Northland, Hawkes Bay ,Westland ,Central Otago or Southland, there all different!!!

Yes i started in waikato and ended in invercargill, i know its an asumption but you probably think we are just whinging poms.

But all said and done your dairy sector is now starting to resemble the uk by building shed feeding in parlour making silage, and over here they are trying to milk outside all year round. Grass is always greener for all of us.

 

[willy]

I think we need to look listen and learn and invent our own style. At the end of the day the principle is the same we need to be profitable on the world stage.

 

[Ysgythan]

can't say to much, they send the boys round

You'll have to do what one of my clients did when he was threatened with having the boys sent around - say "I am the f**king boys!"

 

[S J H]

can't say to much, they send the boys round

So it is more hearsay?

 

[Tim W]

Don't worry about how ''they'' do it just work on how you are going to do it

 

[digger64]

Don't worry about how ''they'' do it just work on how you are going to do it

Well if you know how it gives you a good starting place

 

[Ysgythan]

Don't worry about how ''they'' do it just work on how you are going to do it

Always worth having a look at how others do it, especially successful others, and picking up on principles. Don't believe copying anybody parrot fashion is a good idea.