New Zealand - Land of milk and honey? Holwellcourtfarm's tour 2017

[kiwi pom]

It must be a global issue 99% of hgvs on the road here must be scania or Volvo. Can't see how fonterra can be found at fault if design limits are being exceeded. Not ideal when you'll be coming onto peak milk soon. Guessing majority of fonterra drivers would be getting home each night/day so not the same excuse as long distance drivers staying away and living on crap?

As you say everyone's home at the end of their shift, the hours aren't even that long 13 at the most.
The biggest problem as I see it is rotating shifts 3 days, 24 hours off, 3 nights and 3 days off. Factory staff work 2 days, 2 nights, 4 off, as 3,3 and 3 was considered too much for them, bosses work Mon to Fri days only.
All this despite the fact its been proven many times that its very bad for your health.
It takes its toll and isn't always noticeable until you go back to "normal". but there remains no option for anyone who wants to do permanent days or nights.
I'd still be there if there was.

 

[Kiwi Pete]

Once again, they should come visit the US. A truck driver under 150 kg has to be rare

We just put in fat people seats. They are expensive as hell but are rated up to 800 lbs. not sure what's up with the seat belt attachments. Here they bolt to floor and side of the cab.

My sister used to work in a bakery - not wishing to perpetuate the truckie stereotype but..

"I'll have two of those custard squares, two oval pies, a lollycake... Oh, you haven't got any diet coke"

ALL beings need a diverse diet, nothing is bad in moderation, but our biome is so easily unbalanced on a simple 5 ingredient diet.

More of that holistic jumbo mumbo

 

[FonterraFarmer]

Think they're walking a very fine line here to be fair, the Dairy workers union is going to be busy today.
They have also highlighted the weight limit in Volvo and Scania trucks, with the way the H&S laws are now I would imagine its a problem all transport company's will now have to look into.
In the mean time @FonterraFarmer is paying 50 drivers for nothing

Maybe some drivers spend too much time in the smoko room.... or is it more of a South Island problem , can't say that there are too many beefie drivers at Te Rapa.

 

[stewart]

So, New Zealand might end up with CGT anyway

https://www.odt.co.nz/business/cgt-proposal-must-be-scrutinised-election

We effectively pay a CGT now, if you sell property within a time frame it is classed as income for tax purposes.

Proposing a CGT is just pandering to jealousy, the tax take from it is minimal and if we adopt a UK style of CGT can drive inflation.

 

[kiwi pom]

Maybe some drivers spend too much time in the smoko room.... or is it more of a South Island problem , can't say that there are too many beefie drivers at Te Rapa.

Think I can only think of 1 maybe 2 at Clandeboye that would be over.
I rarely went in the smoko room, most breaks taken on the roadside.
You might be surprised how many had salads and stuff for lunch.
I always took my own food as you never knew if you would go past a shop you could park at especially at night.

 

[Big_D]

As you say everyone's home at the end of their shift, the hours aren't even that long 13 at the most.
The biggest problem as I see it is rotating shifts 3 days, 24 hours off, 3 nights and 3 days off. Factory staff work 2 days, 2 nights, 4 off, as 3,3 and 3 was considered too much for them, bosses work Mon to Fri days only.
All this despite the fact its been proven many times that its very bad for your health.
It takes its toll and isn't always noticeable until you go back to "normal". but there remains no option for anyone who wants to do permanent days or nights.
I'd still be there if there was.

Guess your body would never get onto any sort of a routine on a Rota like that

 

[NZDan]

I'm really enjoying reading this too......my daughter went out just last week and is currently spending a month near Amberley South Island on a farm property as initial stage of 10 week work/fun NZ experience.

She'l be just around the corner from me.

 

[Kiwi Pete]

Will say no more

 

[FonterraFarmer]

Think I can only think of 1 maybe 2 at Clandeboye that would be over.
I rarely went in the smoko room, most breaks taken on the roadside.
You might be surprised how many had salads and stuff for lunch.
I always took my own food as you never knew if you would go past a shop you could park at especially at night.

It appears that the problem is at.....Edendale

 

[Kiwi Pete]

It appears that the problem is at.....Edendale

Some fairly big units around down here..
and big trucks to cart them around too.. I do see the odd Scania with a leaning cab..

 

[FonterraFarmer]

Some fairly big units around down here..
and big trucks to cart them around too.. I do see the odd Scania with a leaning cab..

I thought thay had all Volvo's down there The first Scania's picking up milk this way were from East Tamaki

 

[Kiwi Pete]

I thought thay had all Volvo's down there The first Scania's picking up milk this way were from East Tamaki

Nah, heaps of Scanias out of Edendale.
Around here is Stirling supply mainly, and mixed still mostly Scanias Volvos and fit young drivers

(Oh yeah, Stirling makes cheese - for all you watching who didn't know that. It's reasonably local to here, about 30 minutes away. Edendale is the Southland one, powder/AMF and casein I think?)
Also the Gardians one towards Clydevale and the OC one below Invercargill.

 

[FonterraFarmer]

Nah, heaps of Scanias out of Edendale.
Around here is Stirling supply mainly, and mixed still mostly Scanias Volvos and fit young drivers

(Oh yeah, Stirling makes cheese - for all you watching who didn't know that. It's reasonably local to here, about 30 minutes away. Edendale is the Southland one, powder/AMF and casein I think?)
Also the Gardians one towards Clydevale and the OCD one below Invercargill.

OCD is over the back fence of my uncles farm

 

[Kiwi Pete]

I thought that was about where he'd be.
My BIL used to work pretty much opposite at Tiwai, and now my wife works for him just over the hill from here, small world down here.....
Is it that low altitude farming that y'all seek out

 

[graham99]

Think they're walking a very fine line here to be fair, the Dairy workers union is going to be busy today.
They have also highlighted the weight limit in Volvo and Scania trucks, with the way the H&S laws are now I would imagine its a problem all transport company's will now have to look into.
In the mean time @FonterraFarmer is paying 50 drivers for nothing

up in the north volvo's and scania trucks are noticeable by there absence

 

[FonterraFarmer]

up in the north volvo's and scania trucks are noticeable by there absence

Volvo has been the milk tanker of choice here for the last 20 odd years, Fonterra has evaluated other trucks, most notably of german manufacture, but have been found as not suitable in NZ climate and condition as milk tankers.

 

[NZDan]

I was told about the "Dutch Box" by a young guy who had just started working at a bank, he questioned why the words Dutch had been written across the loan forms, the manager told him if they are Dutch they generally have the ability to pay off a bigger loan, it could of course be Urban Myth.

I do know that where ever you go around the world the biggest and most efficient run farms tend to have Dutch owners, a sweeping generalisation I know, but it does have some basis of fact to it.

A local Dutchman has just bought his 5th Dairy farm $20millon 100% financed.

 

[FonterraFarmer]

A local Dutchman has just bought his 5th Dairy farm $20millon 100% financed.

If he's happy then good on him, but that will be as useful as clogs on ice when he's deceased
(No , Pete , your not allowed to use the "k" word!!,)

 

[Kiwi Pete]

If he's happy then good on him, but that will be as useful as clogs on ice when he's deceased
(No , Pete , your not allowed to use the "k" word!!,)

Will eikel or geldbrander suffice
$20 mill eh?
"Nex year Rodney"

 

[FonterraFarmer]

Will eikel or geldbrander suffice
$20 mill eh?
"Nex year Rodney"

Will eikel or geldbrander suffice
$20 mill eh?
"Next year Rodney"

Near enough