NH 8.90 v JD s780

wuddy

Member
Location
Scottish Borders
Looking to change combines for next harvest! Currently run NH. Both dealers fairly local and receive excellent back-up from both! 30ft on tyres (had tracks on demo prefer tyres and width isn’t really an issue)! Pros and cons of the two combines will be great fully received! tia
 

D14

Member
Looking to change combines for next harvest! Currently run NH. Both dealers fairly local and receive excellent back-up from both! 30ft on tyres (had tracks on demo prefer tyres and width isn’t really an issue)! Pros and cons of the two combines will be great fully received! tia

The americans seem to be swapping away from the new JD's into lexion, case and nh. We have a number of overseas friends doing this and reporting that many others are as well. One guy swapped 6 S790's for 5 Lexions. So I don't think these newer JD machines are to good. One local machine to us, I think its a 785, I know the driver really doesn't like it and he came out of a NH 9080.
 

wuddy

Member
Location
Scottish Borders
The americans seem to be swapping away from the new JD's into lexion, case and nh. We have a number of overseas friends doing this and reporting that many others are as well. One guy swapped 6 S790's for 5 Lexions. So I don't think these newer JD machines are to good. One local machine to us, I think its a 785, I know the driver really doesn't like it and he came out of a NH 9080.
The jd seems to be a bit of a marmite thing. Farming company local to us have changed four lexions for three 790’s over the last two years and they can’t praise them highly enough!
 

quattro

Member
Location
scotland
The jd seems to be a bit of a marmite thing. Farming company local to us have changed four lexions for three 790’s over the last two years and they can’t praise them highly enough!
Wait and see what they replace them with know a few people who changed combines but eventually went back to original make
 

wuddy

Member
Location
Scottish Borders
Wait and see what they replace them with know a few people who changed combines but eventually went back to original make
They bought one for the 2018 harvest and on the back of its performance bought the other two for this harvest. We have had virtually nothing to do with JD combines but there are a few features we like over the NH but not sure it’s enough for us to move away from what we know! Was hoping there might be some users on here but still must be pretty thin on the ground!
 

bluegreen

Member
Lots of S690/790s round here, mainly due to three very big JD tractor using companies. Although this season there were quite a lot of new New Holland CRs running around. I posted up on here comments from a New Holland CR10-90 driver whos farm had swapped from Claas 780, he stated NH CR 2019 with new computer system was hitting 80-85 ton hr average in wheat!! Think the 2019 NHs have raised the bar and no doubt the new Claas Lex introduction will raise it higher still.

Speaking to the local Claas service agent, he still sees NH as their main competitor and felt JD had bought the market in recent years.
 

homefarm

Member
Location
N.West
We have gone from a Case 5088 with a 20ft NH vario header to a JD t560 with a 25ft JD vario.
i think the JD would be a better combine with the NH header,it just fed so much better.
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fergie35

Member
Location
Oxfordshire
Just remember that all JD S series combines are narrow body combines with reduced sieve and cleaning areas compared to NH, Claas, Case etc... wide body machines like the CR8.90 your looking at. You should be able to push a CR8.90 well beyond the JD without losing much over the back, simple physics machines with larger clean grain separation and sieve areas will have less losses
 

H.Jackson

Member
Location
West Sussex
Hi had an S680 for 5 years previouly a short go with a claas, 740 not a good model, and 20 years of nh before that. I like the JD great sample good output mainly reliable ,very good back up. Premium flow header helps even flow. Tried an s790 nice to operate hydraulic concave damping makes it smother .
Tried an Ideal 7 didn't keep up would need to try an 8 , had a case out but need to change grates between crops jd small large large does all crops.
Haven't tried the nh for 5 years last demo had broken gas struts on the chopper doors and blocked up while the not liked claas ploded on so didn't do nh any favors a lot of nh running localy that cover a lot of acres.
 

Brisel

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Midlands
I went from a new model S690 in 2012 to a NH CR9.90. I needed some extra capacity due to changes in farming policy and don't regret it. Design tweaks on my machine are largely sorted now - don't buy the first of a new model, get one that has been around for a few years which both of these have. The concave damping makes a lot of difference & mine was terrible in marginal cutting conditions. Harvest Smart is very good & the machine is pretty user friendly generally. The Pro drive transmission is market leading. I find the NH transmission very underpowered on hills where the JD just shift gears itself as it needs to.

The JD was very good - I had a Hillmaster and farm some steep ground so we never lost any capacity on slopes which you certainly would with Claas sieves. The NH cleaning shoe tilts nearly as far as the Hillmaster's entire chassis does. If you have any slopes at all I'd say JD Hillmaster is essential as the sieve box relies on it. It adds £15-20k to the price though. The JD backup was excellent too, but frankly that was more down to the dealer than JD themselves. No complaints about the NH backup so far but hope they take on more fitters because there are a lot of yellow combines replacing green ones around here. The NH does produce a very good grain sample easily. I've found straw swath quality a bit more baler friendly too but on a hot late August day the straw will be smashed anyway. The Premium straw spreader does blow straw swaths wide but I think there's a standard rear deck extension for it now to stop that.

I ran a 8.90 alongside my S690 in ripe spring barley & it was a good match on the day we had it. I'd consider the S790i instead of the S780. Same internals, just a few less hp which wasn't really an issue on the S690 to be fair unless chopping damp but ripe wheat straw when doing 70+ t/hr in early September. The NH is a beast in ripe wheat but lacks hp when chopping

I'd say both your choices are 2500 acre machines assuming a good spread of crops, low travelling distances and reasonable inclination to dry grain. This is entirely subjective, of course.
 

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