Nice lims

[Fendt65]

Without any breed bashing is it generally true that pure Limousin cattle are quieter than cross Breds

 

[Henarar]

Yes

 

[Skintagain]

My in laws have some pretty much pure lims. They aren’t so much crazy but they they are nasty -they are killers!

 

[Gedd]

It's not the breed but how they are handled and worked with as youngsters in my opinion

 

[le bon paysan]

Ours are quiet ,put 33 stores through the race yesterday for export vaccinations and the vet said they were impeccable.

 

[bluepower]

It's not the breed but how they are handled and worked with as youngsters in my opinion

Cannot agree with that. Limms are just total fruit loops, end of. Any other crossing bull we have used is no where near them apart from Blondes, all handled the same . My experience. Charolais, Salers or Angus are a totally different ball game. You are only on this planet once why dice with Limms unless you enjoy the adrenalin rush and don't mind spending your life repairing gates and fences?

 

[MF 168]

I can't comment on you fellas side of the pond but over here Lims have calmed down a lot in the last decade. It's rare enough now you'd see a nutter in the mart and as often as not I've found myself with a tame Limo in the yards. I've 2 of them here atm and both are pets. One lad comes up and gives me a nudge of his nose for a scratch.
2 of the maddest breeds I've ever dealt with are a suckler reared Angus and a suckler reared Fr. The angus was out of a pet cow but he would kill you soon as look at you. The Fr was out of a quiet cow as well and was absolutely crackers. I'd seldom be afraid around cattle but by God those 2 lads used terrify me when something had to be done. The man who owned them was a proper auld boll*x with scant regard for mine or anyone elses safety. Thankfully it was he who ended up getting flattened one day with the Fr and remarkably the very next evening both those mad cattle were sent in for slaughter.

 

[Pigken]

Never understood why limms should be as aggressive as they can be, not all are mind, as many moons ago whilst at college we were shown alsorts of stuff about the government run bull testing stations for cattle in France, and anything with any aggressive behaviour did not make it through to next stage, surely some habitats /traits are from surroundings why they treated not just because they are ginger in colour and from over the water. Always exceptions.

 

[Northeastfarmer]

Cannot agree with that. Limms are just total fruit loops, end of. Any other crossing bull we have used is no where near them apart from Blondes, all handled the same . My experience. Charolais, Salers or Angus are a totally different ball game. You are only on this planet once why dice with Limms unless you enjoy the adrenalin rush and don't mind spending your life repairing gates and fences?

Absolute nonsense...have plenty of lims and bought plenty...and if they are handled regular then they are as quiet as mice....they won’t be quiet if the only time they see a human is when you try and get them out the pen and onto the wagon

 

[goodevans]

I think Salers should be put on the nutter list yet they seem to be very popular for their maternal traits

 

[bluepower]

Absolute nonsense...have plenty of lims and bought plenty...and if they are handled regular then they are as quiet as mice....they won’t be quiet if the only time they see a human is when you try and get them out the pen and onto the wagon

In my experience it doesn't matter how much they are handled, as suckled calves they have a totally different temperament to Charolais. We have very quiet cows, all bucket reared on this farm and when I ran Limm bulls always went for a bull with a quiet temperament. But the resulting offspring generaly had an issue with temperament. To be fair the heifers were always more flighty than the males.
Our vet always comments how quiet the cattle are at TB test, we could always tell when a Limm came down the race. Just my experience, we will beg to differ.

 

[aled1590]

its a right mix on this farm, the odd lim cow is a bit flighty and the others are quiet as can be. We have a few quiet Simms and a few flightier ones, Same goes with the odd charolais here. I have never felt that the lims are getting too much of a handfull to keep. One cow we had to get rid in the summer as she was determined to kill us whenever she had a calf...she was a saler.

 

[aled1590]

Also have around 20 lim x Simm heifers and 1st calvers coming through and only one I can think of that’s a bit flighty, but manageable

 

[milkloss]

Haven’t had lims Here for a while so can only remember from when I was 10 that they were a little edgy.

what I can say is that we have a proportion of char that are pure fruit loops and we borrowed a sim bull one year after ours went lame and the heifers we kept were absolute arses to handle. The sim cows/heifers were always heads up, always at the back of a gang and when running through a gate would always go full tilt with their head aimed at you as they went past.

the loopy char calves at 6 months would hunt you down and literally try and work out how to get at you as you hid behind a post. Maybe 2 or 3 out of 60 I guess.

all of them went down the road as soon as it was obvious there was no settling down.

i don’t think it’s just lims.

 

[Weasel]

Cannot agree with that. Limms are just total fruit loops, end of. Any other crossing bull we have used is no where near them apart from Blondes, all handled the same . My experience. Charolais, Salers or Angus are a totally different ball game. You are only on this planet once why dice with Limms unless you enjoy the adrenalin rush and don't mind spending your life repairing gates and fences?

Salers are not much better. Charolais and simmental are the easiest to handle

 

[bluepower]

Salers are not much better. Charolais and simmental are the easiest to handle

I think there is good and bad in every breed, we have had pedigree Devon cows that want to kill you at calving time! Cows defintley get more protective as they get older and wiser but should calm down within a week of calving, it is okay if you know who the protective ones are as they calve. Without contradicting myself I think that Limms may have improved over the last ten years but I bought some heifers in calf to Limm and those calves certainly are not very quiet.

 

[czechmate]

Ours are quiet ,put 33 stores through the race yesterday for export vaccinations and the vet said they were impeccable.

Didn’t you get some new teeth roger?...

Actually when we came here, I would say all the cows were dangerous. Last night, outside we had a cow have her third calf, the ground was wet, it was cold and windy and the chance of rain; so we pushed the calf out the field into the building (not very close ). The mum just pottered along next to us. Calf half an hour old. I did coment to Mr’s Cz the huge difference and do wonder why? She does spend quite some time with them, on foot, whereas the previous just raced around them with a quad.

 

[Henarar]

Didn’t you get some new teeth roger?...

Actually when we came here, I would say all the cows were dangerous. Last night, outside we had a cow have her third calf, the ground was wet, it was cold and windy and the chance of rain; so we pushed the calf out the field into the building (not very close ). The mum just pottered along next to us. Calf half an hour old. I did coment to Mr’s Cz the huge difference and do wonder why? She does spend quite some time with them, on foot, whereas the previous just raced around them with a quad.

think you answered your own question there

 

[Johngee]

Didn’t you get some new teeth roger?...

Actually when we came here, I would say all the cows were dangerous. Last night, outside we had a cow have her third calf, the ground was wet, it was cold and windy and the chance of rain; so we pushed the calf out the field into the building (not very close ). The mum just pottered along next to us. Calf half an hour old. I did coment to Mr’s Cz the huge difference and do wonder why? She does spend quite some time with them, on foot, whereas the previous just raced around them with a quad.

Agreed, how you handle them is the key. I always make sure that I go in with the young heifers when I bed them down. You soon see which ones are a bit iffy. Any temperament problems are a red line here and they're away. Also make sure that I make a fuss of in calf heifers during the winter, scratch their backs etc so that they get used to human attention.

 

[Henarar]

some folk will feed them with a machine, bed them with a machine and clean them out with a machine and when they are outside they look at them on the quad not dropping below 30 mph and move them with the quad then they wonder why they can't handle them when on foot