No surprise, loads of land coming for sale?

[Turra farmer]

I know its capacity doesn't have much to do with value , but in any other business it definitely would ,

Just interested what can be achieved further south , as really the value of land doesn't come into it until you sell it ,

 

[chaffcutter]

Further south within commuter distance of the main towns the type/style/condition of the main hous has a big influence, but nice size blocks of bare land always make good money as add-ons

 

[fudge]

Not that different from the rest of the UK then, just a bit less "liquid" judging from Multi Power's & Chimera's posts.



Baabaa's link showed the land prices adjusted for real terms. From that graph, I would conclude that land is a good inflation hedge, especially in times of adversity in the wider economy.

Pretty sure baabaa's data is not corrected for inflation although it does show the decline between 1870 and 1930.

 

[tanker]

Name the hedge fund that owns land in Carmarthenshire then

There isn't any.

I can however name a hedge fund asset trader from a farm down here,it's what my brother does.I asked him this very question about farmland not that long ago.Bear in mind that he alone(&29 colleagues that do the same job) turns over £1 Billion in a year(margins are whatever's thinner than wafer thin but that's another story)he was saying that there isn't enough farmland in very large blocks to get involved in the trade really.If you've got a £100million to invest to a deadline,a few mega-deals on bonds/shares/futures etc is far more efficient than firstly looking for and then evaluating say 20 farms at £5 million.
There may be more specialist investors that would flirt with it but hedge funds rely on sheer scale to function(you need a £1Billion at least to invest even to consider running a successful fund) so they don't look at it usually..

 

[Brisel]

Braemar and Blackrock are two investment funds who bought farmland. I used to contract farm a unit for Blackrock. They had it for 4 years until they sold it to Beeswax (Dyson) for a tidy profit as well as the farming profit we made for them.

 

[rose pilchett]

I can however name a hedge fund asset trader from a farm down here,it's what my brother does.I asked him this very question about farmland not that long ago.Bear in mind that he alone(&29 colleagues that do the same job) turns over £1 Billion in a year(margins are whatever's thinner than wafer thin but that's another story)he was saying that there isn't enough farmland in very large blocks to get involved in the trade really.If you've got a £100million to invest to a deadline,a few mega-deals on bonds/shares/futures etc is far more efficient than firstly looking for and then evaluating say 20 farms at £5 million.
There may be more specialist investors that would flirt with it but hedge funds rely on sheer scale to function(you need a £1Billion at least to invest even to consider running a successful fund) so they don't look at it usually..

Not necessarily true, I work with hedge funds from 10m to 16bn AUM, there are some small specialist ones that invest in all manner of things (art and REIT spring to mind) we have one set up just thus far to invest in one building, none I m involved with are ag property but there will be investors out there with that appetite. Got some I work on that have commodities (ag, non ag or excluding ag and livestock) take lots of CBOT positions etc, got some that can get it spectacularly wrong too!

 

[tanker]

there are some small specialist ones that invest in all manner of things (art and REIT spring to mind)

For sure,hedge funds are allowed to invest in just about anything they want,nowhere near as regulated as some other investment vehicles so anything goes,but my point was that many of them are so massive that farmland doesn't come on the radar..

 

[Turra farmer]

I know were I want my pension fund ,and its not with the men in suits ,

 

[Nearly]

I know were I want my pension fund ,and its not with the men in suits ,

boiler suit?