No till into wheat/barley stubble

[kamloops]

we are in the early stages of a new no till system.

I am after advice when drilling into wheat/barley stubble as this looks the tricky one to get right. General advice is to drill early but if I do this I expect to see lots of black grass come with the crop.

For those of you that are now full no till how did you start? Presumably it won’t work if you set off head first on bad black grass land?

 

[DrWazzock]

Baling straw? Easier for drill, less toxins from straw breakdown which affect OSR in the case of barley straw but if it's a bit wet, more wheelings and also potash and humus loss.

Drill OSR as early as you dare (23 August) Drill cereals as late as you can, spraying off just before drilling. 4th of October here. Should be possible to go later down south I would have thought. Maybe another litre glyphosate post drilling before crop emergence.

Residual chemistry from previous crop can be your friend suppressing blackgrass and weeds generally.

I'd say much less likely to get a big flush of blackgrass post drilling than with conventional tillage.

2.5 litre glyphosate pre harvest is useful on any perennial grass weeds before they get covered in chopped straw or mown off by the combine but this isn't very politically correct nowadays.

A straw rake straight behind the combine? Again some like them some don't.

I'd be low disturbance subsoiling straight behind the combine as well if there are compacted areas. Trade off between between putting a tine in and avoiding a pond over winter and risking setting off some black-grass.

Main thing is to plan well ahead, which you seem to be doing. I'd say you will know your soils and situations better than anybody on here.

 

[SilliamWhale]

I have a lot of problems with brassicas into ultra low disturbance barley stubbles to the extent i have to cultivate sadly.

Its a combination of rain and toxins