Northern Ireland Milk Price Tracker

[Aircooled]

You're too narrow minded on the European question. It may not of been helped by the over production in parts of Europe but it was a worldwide problem. As far as the tanker driver... he predicts that united will fall back into its old mould of paying poor prices when there's lots of milk in spring. He says the war chest is empty and there looking at the family silver now. As for the rest 25p

Yes it was a worldwide problem alright but partly caused by eu market interference - sudden ending of quotas on a well informed date.Now that its behind us I will be happy with a minimum price of 25p for the spring to keep the wheels turning. Any higher and I'll lose ground.

 

[it's not over]

I left school over 30 years ago. We were getting 18p then. 25p is far too low a Base line. 35p and pay a fair rent as well. Con acre hasn't changed much either

 

[Aircooled]

I agree but i was offered more ground than i could work with in the past 2 years.before that not an acre.now I have to renegotiate tomorrow!

 

[Davy]

Same here. Last spring we were offered quite a lot of land off different landlords. Didn't need any more, so never even questioned the price but I would have been fairly sure it was more money than I'd have though fair for it. Usually theres a fair price, then the price the landlord wants

 

[yin ewe]

Except it'll be two women bitching at other. It'll be some farce.

Started already

I left school over 30 years ago. We were getting 18p then. 25p is far too low a Base line. 35p and pay a fair rent as well. Con acre hasn't changed much either

35p base line and beef, sucklers and sheep will dissappear altogether. Conacre has doubled round here in that time, suppose buying has increased 6/7 times.

 

[thewalrus]

I left school over 30 years ago. We were getting 18p then. 25p is far too low a Base line. 35p and pay a fair rent as well. Con acre hasn't changed much either

Can you imagine the price of land it would be north of £20k an acre maybe even north of £25k.

At 35p minimum anyone could make money if they'd land.

 

[it's not over]

Started already


35p base line and beef, sucklers and sheep will dissappear altogether. Conacre has doubled round here in that time, suppose buying has increased 6/7 times.

Conacre is cheap compared to buying it. Only problem with conacre is the other man looking over the hedge for next year. Everything else has more than doubled in 30 years. Why not milk. Beef sheep man doesn't know how to work. He only get busy 5 min before the wife comes home from her work

 

[The Agrarian]

Conacre is only good value if I can have it for long enough to put it into the shape I want it in. I wouldn't be interested in short term land, unless to grow a bit of rough dry cow haylage. Dairy lessee's need to push much harder nowadays when negotiating to fix a timeframe, rather than the annual conacre nonsense.

 

[crabbitfarmer]

Conacre is only good value if I can have it for long enough to put it into the shape I want it in. I wouldn't be interested in short term land, unless to grow a bit of rough dry cow haylage. Dairy lessee's need to push much harder nowadays when negotiating to fix a timeframe, rather than the annual conacre nonsense.

Totally agree, we've our's taken on a 5 year agreement which is renewed every year. If that makes sense.

 

[The Agrarian]

Yeah, so it's a new five year lease each year. What way do you work price into it?

 

[crabbitfarmer]

Yeah, so it's a new five year lease each year. What way do you work price into it?

Land price is set, has been the same since we started with him, quite average price, he maintains it well, fences, drains, grass seed etc, he feeds heifers for us on his farm all winter paid on a per head per week basis on top so he's happy enough.

 

[yin ewe]

Conacre is only good value if I can have it for long enough to put it into the shape I want it in. I wouldn't be interested in short term land, unless to grow a bit of rough dry cow haylage. Dairy lessee's need to push much harder nowadays when negotiating to fix a timeframe, rather than the annual conacre nonsense.

I agree, but round here the owners seem to think that they are somehow losing control of their ground if they lease it to you for 5 years.

 

[The Agrarian]

It's not straight forward, that's for sure.

Some lessors are old and don't want to be tied up in a term that might be longer than they expect to live...

Others are happy to rent ground continuously to the same person for thirty years, yet committing to a five year lease can make some of them uncomfortable.

I think locking price in is at least part of the problem. Some would be scared that they will miss some unexpected jump in the market. Perhaps doesn't occur to them that the market can go down as well as up.

 

[Wee Willy]

And when exactly did the price of conacre ever go down?

 

[The Agrarian]

I paid a bit less for last year's

 

[Wee Willy]

Wow! Please share your tactics. Did you come across compromising pics of your landlord? Price drop would never happen in Tyrone.

 

[thunderballs]

There's a queue for ever acre around here.

 

[The Agrarian]

No vacant land here either.

Mind you, there is plenty of land in the category just above vacant.

 

[thewalrus]

Grant letter arrived today

 

[Davy]

How many points had you accumulated on the application form?