NZ Groundswell protests.

[FonterraFarmer]

Whoa, hold up there, you are sounding like a load of whinging poms, NZ already generates 80% of its leccy from renewable resources, a fantastic achievement, so sink more geothermal wells, erect those turbines, deepen your hydro reservoirs and start making hydrogen. Save the world, leave that coal and gas under your soils. We expect great things of you.

Your missed the point, all that you mention have limitations and none of them can be regulated quickly to match consumer demand with usesage spikes and without thermal generation would create the chance of brown outs or black outs.
Simple solution would be to disconnect the grid at the Bombay Hill.

 

[FonterraFarmer]

Whoa, hold up there, you are sounding like a load of whinging poms, NZ already generates 80% of its leccy from renewable resources, a fantastic achievement, so sink more geothermal wells, erect those turbines, deepen your hydro reservoirs and start making hydrogen. Save the world, leave that coal and gas under your soils. We expect great things of you.

On the subject of hydro, it's near on impossible to do even that, just look at the stuff up with the government with the proposed Waitahi scheme at Kiwi Flat!!!
As for hydrogen and the potential of using Bluff/Invercargill is a non runner, so I've been told....

 

[Global ovine]

Given that tourism is optional and discretionary, is it flawed for an economy to be overly reliant on it?
And is tourism actually quite a low net contributor to the economy?

No in NZ's situation, as tourism was only marginally ahead of the dairy industry, but considerably behind the total pastoral industry products exported (dairy, red meat and fibre) prior to Covid-19.
It was the highest overseas income earner, but a low net earner (as explained above), however did employ a big infrastructure and human resource to function. Therefore a large contributor to GDP.

Agriculturally I was not thinking of locking the borders, rather, the things I am seeing on face book about the way agriculture is being treated by the government. Am I wrong then in thinking farming is under the cosh with the government in Wellington?

No not wrong. The current NZ Gov't is a typical socialist lot more driven by ideology than pragmatism. They do not understand the regional complexity of primary production and are driven by the overarching desire to be seen globally as doing the right thing at any expense to those involved.

 

[Short_Angus]

A good friend from New Zealand sent me this.

 

[jerseycowsman]

My NZ wife’s cousin’s lambing skills in the 70’s began and ended with shooting those ewes which were any bother, when things got tougher in the 80’s he used to carry a sharp knife instead of wasting a bullet - In this century his son just lets the ewe die.
Wouldn’t be acceptable in the UK.
Tail docking of dairy cows (to benefit the milker in a parlour) was I believe banned within the last 10 years so progress is being made.

That’s a bit woke, what happens in the wild when an animal has trouble giving birth? It gets eaten by a predator. It’s called life, not Disney.

 

[Bogweevil]

Your missed the point, all that you mention have limitations and none of them can be regulated quickly to match consumer demand with usesage spikes and without thermal generation would create the chance of brown outs or black outs.
Simple solution would be to disconnect the grid at the Bombay Hill.

But they can - that is the wonder of hydro you open of close the valve as required but you might need bigger reservoirs to cope with dry periods. Then there is geothermal - highly reliable, much better than wind. If a country of 67 million can cut out coal then it should be a breeze (sorry) for NZ: https://www.gov.uk/government/news/end-to-coal-power-brought-forward-to-october-2024

 

[Bogweevil]

On the subject of hydro, it's near on impossible to do even that, just look at the stuff up with the government with the proposed Waitahi scheme at Kiwi Flat!!!
As for hydrogen and the potential of using Bluff/Invercargill is a non runner, so I've been told....

Yes, difficult decisions - damage by a dam vs alleviating climate change - its like us, industrialising the countryside with solar and wind farms, I am not keen, but perhaps needs must.

 

[Courier]

No in NZ's situation, as tourism was only marginally ahead of the dairy industry, but considerably behind the total pastoral industry products exported (dairy, red meat and fibre) prior to Covid-19.
It was the highest overseas income earner, but a low net earner (as explained above), however did employ a big infrastructure and human resource to function. Therefore a large contributor to GDP.


No not wrong. The current NZ Gov't is a typical socialist lot more driven by ideology than pragmatism. They do not understand the regional complexity of primary production and are driven by the overarching desire to be seen globally as doing the right thing at any expense to those involved.

"They do not understand the regional complexity of primary production"

Neither does the current cabal of Posh Boys who seem to think they are capable of governing the UK.

 

[Bury the Trash]

Yes, difficult decisions - damage by a dam vs alleviating climate change - its like us, industrialising the countryside with solar and wind farms, I am not keen, but perhaps needs must.

yes needs must

 

[FonterraFarmer]

Yes, difficult decisions - damage by a dam vs alleviating climate change - its like us, industrialising the countryside with solar and wind farms, I am not keen, but perhaps needs must.

Waitahi would actually have been minimal impact, wanted by locals including Iwi, would have made the West Coast self sufficient and not totally dependent on the national grid, but canned by the government.....





And no plan "B".

 

[FonterraFarmer]

But they can - that is the wonder of hydro you open of close the valve as required but you might need bigger reservoirs to cope with dry periods. Then there is geothermal - highly reliable, much better than wind. If a country of 67 million can cut out coal then it should be a breeze (sorry) for NZ: https://www.gov.uk/government/news/end-to-coal-power-brought-forward-to-october-2024

The other part of the problem is most consumption is required north of the Bombays and most hydro is in the South Island and South of Hamilton in the North Island hence Huntly is essential for back up , without Huntly Auckland will suffer brown outs at peak demand especially in winter.
Or they could put air conditioning and heat pumps on ripple control too.