Old horse manure

steveR

Member
Mixed Farmer
I am accumulating quite a bit of horse muck from a nerby horse keeper. Great stuff, clean and minimum debris. I wanted to break down the wood shavings more quickly so mixed some chicken muck in which made a massive difference, and now move it about every 3-4 week and will spread come

However, I was asked if I was interested in a huge midden at a livery yard. The idea was I would remove it for free.... my suggestion was 40 quid/hr. I left it...
 

robs1

Member
I am accumulating quite a bit of horse muck from a nerby horse keeper. Great stuff, clean and minimum debris. I wanted to break down the wood shavings more quickly so mixed some chicken muck in which made a massive difference, and now move it about every 3-4 week and will spread come

However, I was asked if I was interested in a huge midden at a livery yard. The idea was I would remove it for free.... my suggestion was 40 quid/hr. I left it...
Blimey cheeky buggers we charge at least 50 quid an hour,
 

principal skinner

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Bedfordshire
I am accumulating quite a bit of horse muck from a nerby horse keeper. Great stuff, clean and minimum debris. I wanted to break down the wood shavings more quickly so mixed some chicken muck in which made a massive difference, and now move it about every 3-4 week and will spread come

However, I was asked if I was interested in a huge midden at a livery yard. The idea was I would remove it for free.... my suggestion was 40 quid/hr. I left it...
I’ve one of them, horse person thinks I’m going to pay him for the muck. Four years later the heap is getting bigger and so is the price charged by me for removal. Last conversation was I will remove and spread for £65/hr plus vat but because fertiliser has gone up I’m being unreasonable in charging at all 🤣🤣🤣🤣
 

steveR

Member
Mixed Farmer
I’ve one of them, horse person thinks I’m going to pay him for the muck. Four years later the heap is getting bigger and so is the price charged by me for removal. Last conversation was I will remove and spread for £65/hr plus vat but because fertiliser has gone up I’m being unreasonable in charging at all 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I did have one 2-3 years ago that told me the fert value was really high in their muck pile and like your Optimist, he suggested the value outweighed the cost in removal for me.! I countered with an offer to spread it on his land....

It was still there last Winter..
 

DrWazzock

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
Something I learned the hard way that might be useful for others to know:
If you go to their yard to load up and remove the muck, then photograph and check the condition of floors, walls, tracks etc before you start. If you find any defects point them out to the owner before you start. Point out that their DIY Gerry built facilities, tracks, 2” thick concrete yard etc might not withstand the weight and forces of agricultural trailers and loaders. If in doubt walk away.
That way you might avoid receiving a claim on your insurance two years after actually being in their yard for damage you’ve no memory of ever incurring and which wasn’t raised by them at the time.
Never think you are doing these folk a favour or a good deed. Most are now absolutely strapped for cash and are the sort who are looking for any opportunity to draw a bit in off somebody else.
Lesson learned by me.
Frankly horse muck removal just isn’t worth the risk and bother. It’s a potential minefield in so many different ways.
In fact I’d be very hesitant now to do anybody “a favour” with any of my kit, such is the litigious nature of many newcomers to rural areas.
 

Lofty1984

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
South wales
Something I learned the hard way that might be useful for others to know:
If you go to their yard to load up and remove the muck, then photograph and check the condition of floors, walls, tracks etc before you start. If you find any defects point them out to the owner before you start. Point out that their DIY Gerry built facilities, tracks, 2” thick concrete yard etc might not withstand the weight and forces of agricultural trailers and loaders. If in doubt walk away.
That way you might avoid receiving a claim on your insurance two years after actually being in their yard for damage you’ve no memory of ever incurring and which wasn’t raised by them at the time.
Never think you are doing these folk a favour or a good deed. Most are now absolutely strapped for cash and are the sort who are looking for any opportunity to draw a bit in off somebody else.
Lesson learned by me.
Frankly horse muck removal just isn’t worth the risk and bother. It’s a potential minefield in so many different ways.
In fact I’d be very hesitant now to do anybody “a favour” with any of my kit, such is the litigious nature of many newcomers to rural areas.
These sorts really are stupid word gets around and before they know it no one will do anything for them unless it’s for a massive price
 

Dry Rot

Member
Livestock Farmer
Something I learned the hard way that might be useful for others to know:
If you go to their yard to load up and remove the muck, then photograph and check the condition of floors, walls, tracks etc before you start. If you find any defects point them out to the owner before you start. Point out that their DIY Gerry built facilities, tracks, 2” thick concrete yard etc might not withstand the weight and forces of agricultural trailers and loaders. If in doubt walk away.
That way you might avoid receiving a claim on your insurance two years after actually being in their yard for damage you’ve no memory of ever incurring and which wasn’t raised by them at the time.
Never think you are doing these folk a favour or a good deed. Most are now absolutely strapped for cash and are the sort who are looking for any opportunity to draw a bit in off somebody else.
Lesson learned by me.
Frankly horse muck removal just isn’t worth the risk and bother. It’s a potential minefield in so many different ways.
In fact I’d be very hesitant now to do anybody “a favour” with any of my kit, such is the litigious nature of many newcomers to rural areas.
"No good turn goes unpunished". As above, "Get it in writing" and make sure photographs are time/date stamped.
 

DrWazzock

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
These sorts really are stupid word gets around and before they know it no one will do anything for them unless it’s for a massive price
That’s what’s happened now. The only people who will take it away are commercial waste contractors at £200 a visit if they even feel like turning up. It’s a waste and an unnecessary cost but entirely self inflicted. As it was I was the farmer/contractor of last resort but that’s me out of that game.
 

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