Old Moore Unidrill

TParker

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Livestock Farmer
Does anyone know how the old Moore unidrills compare with the new red ones. I know they have the small metal wheels to roll in the ground behind the discs whereas the new ones often have a packer roller. Has anyone retrofitted an old Moore Unidrill with a packer roller rather than the metal wheels?
 

Michael S

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Arable Farmer
Location
Matching Green
The red mounted Moore drills are completely different animals to the trailed ones. The red ones have the disc and coulter on an arm bolted to the drill frame with rubber sausage suspension on each one and the Guttler or similar roller controlling the height of the frame, therefore the depth of the coulters. The blue ones have a pair of disc and coulter units with the following press wheels mounted on an arm that is sprung from the main frame at both the front and rear. Depth control is by adjusting the angle of the main frame via a turnbuckle or ram spacers between the drawbar and the frame. Later versions added a rubber roller to the front of the coulter arm. This is our 8m which I think is the only one in existence.
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TParker

Member
Livestock Farmer
The red mounted Moore drills are completely different animals to the trailed ones. The red ones have the disc and coulter on an arm bolted to the drill frame with rubber sausage suspension on each one and the Guttler or similar roller controlling the height of the frame, therefore the depth of the coulters. The blue ones have a pair of disc and coulter units with the following press wheels mounted on an arm that is sprung from the main frame at both the front and rear. Depth control is by adjusting the angle of the main frame via a turnbuckle or ram spacers between the drawbar and the frame. Later versions added a rubber roller to the front of the coulter arm. This is our 8m which I think is the only one in existence. View attachment 1085744
That’s quite a machine, bit bigger than the usual 4m ones. I see what you mean about the depth control, seems to be two very different mechanisms. I was kind of hoping that the wheels would roll the slit together a bit on grassland, but I’m not sure it works like that when I see a video
 

Michael S

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Arable Farmer
Location
Matching Green
That’s quite a machine, bit bigger than the usual 4m ones. I see what you mean about the depth control, seems to be two very different mechanisms. I was kind of hoping that the wheels would roll the slit together a bit on grassland, but I’m not sure it works like that when I see a video
On the blue ones the press wheels follow directly behind each coulter. The red ones are arguably like a Simtech but with a disc coulter rather than a tine.
 

TParker

Member
Livestock Farmer
On the blue ones the press wheels follow directly behind each coulter. The red ones are arguably like a Simtech but with a disc coulter rather than a tine.
something old for grassland would be fine if it worked and probably the only thing my father would agree to
 

YELROM

Member
Location
North Yorkshire
The red mounted Moore drills are completely different animals to the trailed ones. The red ones have the disc and coulter on an arm bolted to the drill frame with rubber sausage suspension on each one and the Guttler or similar roller controlling the height of the frame, therefore the depth of the coulters. The blue ones have a pair of disc and coulter units with the following press wheels mounted on an arm that is sprung from the main frame at both the front and rear. Depth control is by adjusting the angle of the main frame via a turnbuckle or ram spacers between the drawbar and the frame. Later versions added a rubber roller to the front of the coulter arm. This is our 8m which I think is the only one in existence. View attachment 1085744
@Michael S does your hydraulic fan have 3 oil pipes?
I have bought a 4m Moore’s drill with the Horsch hopper like yours but it has 3 oil pipes to the fan and the book only seems to show 2
 
Does anyone know how the old Moore unidrills compare with the new red ones. I know they have the small metal wheels to roll in the ground behind the discs whereas the new ones often have a packer roller. Has anyone retrofitted an old Moore Unidrill with a packer roller rather than the metal wheels?
It’s a Simtech you need drilling into old pasture,better germination
 

Michael S

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Matching Green
@Michael S does your hydraulic fan have 3 oil pipes?
I have bought a 4m Moore’s drill with the Horsch hopper like yours but it has 3 oil pipes to the fan and the book only seems to show 2
I imagine that ours has 3 pipes connected to the hydraulic motor although I would need to go and look to be certain since I don't operate it myself. If you have three pipes you most likely have a flow and return plus a smaller pipe which will be a case drain. The case drain is often plumbed into the return. Opinions may differ but the case drain needs to be returned to tank with the lowest possible back pressure. If you have three pipes all with couplers I might risk the return back through the spool and the case drain on the free flow return. Some tractors, certainly some Fendts, have a free flow return and a separate case drain connection. If you have any doubts about the connections I'd speak to your local Horsch dealer.
 

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