one for the MF die hards

[Speedstar]

Ahh. Operator error then.

we have opertor's not seat warmers like you, have you ever used a compactor with no side ways movement on the arms

 

[Wellytrack]

LOOKS LIKE IT ON A silage pit ops caps, pob with huge compactor and and slack in the sway arms, dont take much to snap if it flies over from one side to other and bangs, plus it looks largely a clean snap.

i was told by dealer a potential bearing issue may arise if you let brakes fail causing contamination,

looks like you clearly have carful operators so im sure you never even needed any brake replacements

Largely myself and my dad so yes, fairly gentle on stuff but it works hard when it needs too.

Tractors can sit idle from one week to next then do 70 hours a week in summer time.

Replaced the brakes in a 3120 at 7k hours. Just done another set in a 3085 at 7.7k couple of months ago.

 

[Farma Parma]

To be fair, you have entirely brought that on yourself.


Brakes every 2000hrs? Blimey.....

The man does do a lot of Road miles you do realize that ? i dont thats why ive never touched rear trumpets on any tractor here in 30 years apart from the PIG i bought, long gone now.

 

[Spud]

we have opertor's not seat warmers like you, have you ever used a compactor with no side ways movement on the arms

Was the compactor attached at cat 2 or cat 3 arm width?

 

[Speedstar]

To be fair, you have entirely brought that on yourself.


Brakes every 2000hrs? Blimey.....

No maintenance is why they are changed no other reason , no 4 wheel braking on a MF ,

 

[Speedstar]

Was the compactor attached at cat 2 or cat 3 arm width?

Cat 3

 

[Speedstar]

Was the compactor attached at cat 2 or cat 3 arm width?

at 4500kg it would never be on cat 2 would it

 

[Wellytrack]

we have opertor's not seat warmers like you, have you ever used a compactor with no side ways movement on the arms

Good for you.

It's obvious it's not just the weight of the machine that caused that, it's the leverage causing massive forces to tear the casting up.

No, I have never used a compactor but I've also been around long enough to see when tractors are smashed like that irrespective of make it's rarely the construction of the tractor at fault.

If I was staring at the rear of a smashed up JD or NH in the same state I'd be asking questions about the work it had been doing and how it was put to that work.

 

[Spud]

The man does do a lot of Road miles you do realize that ? i dont thats why ive never touched rear trumpets on any tractor here in 30 years apart from the PIG i bought, long gone now.

My 7480 did huge road miles. MF used it in a case study to show what was possible after a customer was wrecking brakes in under 100hrs. It had about 8500hrs on at the time. They were 90%+ so we left them in. It left here on 12600hrs, c/w the original brakes.
Hell we get 9000hrs out of telehandler brakes, what does speedy do? Go flat out everywhere & stand on the anchors? Not bother servicing his trailers?

 

[Spud]

at 4500kg it would never be on cat 2 would it

Not if you had any sense, no.

But even 'operter's make mistakes....

 

[Spud]

No maintenance is why they are changed no other reason , no 4 wheel braking on a MF ,

Never known anyone pull trumpets off & chuck good brakes out in the name of maintenance before, you must be a nervous wreck

 

[Lofty1984]

The man does do a lot of Road miles you do realize that ? i dont thats why ive never touched rear trumpets on any tractor here in 30 years apart from the PIG i bought, long gone now.

So do we I’d say more than speedy with dyna 6 tractors all up in high hours and had no issues

 

[Farma Parma]

My 7480 did huge road miles. MF used it in a case study to show what was possible after a customer was wrecking brakes in under 100hrs. It had about 8500hrs on at the time. They were 90%+ so we left them in. It left here on 12600hrs, c/w the original brakes.
Hell we get 9000hrs out of telehandler brakes, what does speedy do? Go flat out everywhere & stand on the anchors? Not bother servicing his trailers?

haha the man rebuilds trailers in his sleep. heck he had several page spread in FW a few years ago so id say he knows plenty about brakes.
What he hasnt had is Vario Trans anything until about 5/6year ago he can advise us on that. all his masseys been GIMA trans until the recent 7480 i know he got.
you probs get even longer out of Merlo Brakes if it wasnt for the fact the calipers stick slightly from very little use.
i do like the hydro on the merlo i must say.

 

[Spud]

Good for you.

It's obvious it's not just the weight of the machine that caused that, it's the leverage causing massive forces to tear the casting up.

No, I have never used a compactor but I've also been around long enough to see when tractors are smashed like that irrespective of make it's rarely the construction of the tractor at fault.

If I was staring at the rear of a smashed up JD or NH in the same state I'd be asking questions about the work it had been doing and how it was put to that work.

We made that mistake on a 6290, big heavy combi, too much slack in the stabilisers, bit careless, BANG, hole in the axle and stabiliser bracket ripped out. Operator error. It happens.

 

[Spud]

haha the man rebuilds trailers in his sleep. heck he had several page spread in FW a few years ago so id say he knows plenty about brakes.
What he hasnt had is Vario Trans anything until about 5/6year ago he can advise us on that. all his masseys been GIMA trans until the recent 7480 i know he got.
you probs get even longer out of Merlo Brakes if it wasnt for the fact the calipers stick slightly from very little use.
i do like the hydro on the merlo i must say.

He ought to try doing them while he's awake then....and coupling them up!!

 

[Speedstar]

My 7480 did huge road miles. MF used it in a case study to show what was possible after a customer was wrecking brakes in under 100hrs. It had about 8500hrs on at the time. They were 90%+ so we left them in. It left here on 12600hrs, c/w the original brakes.
Hell we get 9000hrs out of telehandler brakes, what does speedy do? Go flat out everywhere & stand on the anchors? Not bother servicing his trailers?

come on spud , you know all our trailers are on commercial axles with air brakes & are very well maintained , but you all know better so what is the point , this is a forum were every one can have there say & points of view , why do you think MF have used a better back end in there new tractors , because they are trying there best to make the tractors better which is a good thing

 

[Spud]

come on spud , you know all our trailers are on commercial axles with air brakes & are very well maintained , but you all know better so what is the point , this is a forum were every one can have there say & points of view , why do you think MF have used a better back end in there new tractors , because they are trying there best to make the tractors better which is a good thing

How do you know it's better?
And no, I don't know the spec of your carts.

 

[Speedstar]

Good for you.

It's obvious it's not just the weight of the machine that caused that, it's the leverage causing massive forces to tear the casting up.

No, I have never used a compactor but I've also been around long enough to see when tractors are smashed like that irrespective of make it's rarely the construction of the tractor at fault.

If I was staring at the rear of a smashed up JD or NH in the same state I'd be asking questions about the work it had been doing and how it was put to that work.

look at the bolts on a JD , NH , Case or the rest only 8.8 holding them on so they break first Mf ones are 12.9 that could be part of it

 

[dee]

its funny Speedstar mentions the rear trumpet housings issue more so on the bigger wheelbase masseys as local dealer has changed quite a few over the years.
so there must be some issue in what he mentions.... They keep either side on the parts shelf, what does that tell you !!

They stock plenty of parts

 

[Spud]

look at the bolts on a JD , NH , Case or the rest only 8.8 holding them on so they break first Mf ones are 12.9 that could be part of it

A 12.9 is harder and more brittle, so will snap under shock load. 8.8 will bend or tear first.