one for the MF die hards

[Farmer_Joe]

So how are those new Ideal combines standing up? Have they finally got it right? If not, I fear for these new tractors.....

mike mitchell on youtube has somthing crazy like or 8-10? of them

few teething issues but as ever its how there resolved, he was super impressed with agco and their backup god knows what it would be like in uk.

 

[Frankzy]

Yes, it is absolutely ridiculous. It devalues the brand and the equipment because very very few people will know which model delivers what at what price point and they cannot connect emotionally with something so confusing.

I don't see the same problems at all it seems..
The differences between the different tractors around 100hp is pretty clear, first you have different first number such as 3710, 4710 and 5710 which is just different size. Then there's some ranges with letter such as 5700S and 5700M where the M stands for global range or in other words they've copied JD where M=poverty spec. To be honest I don't know what the AL range is about but that is one range that I don't know anything about by just looking at the numbers...

The model number should clearly indicate what the product is and where it stands in the range. It shouldn't need a reference chart to work it out.

It doesn't though, the numbering is clear as day, first number is relative chassi size second number is generation and last two is horsepower... As above the inclusion of the M and AL lettering complicates things but that's instantly cleared by actually looking it up.

 

[daveydiesel1]

Yes, it is absolutely ridiculous. It devalues the brand and the equipment because very very few people will know which model delivers what at what price point and they cannot connect emotionally with something so confusing. It is just pïss-poor marketing. The product, dealers and customers deserve better than this.

The model number should clearly indicate what the product is and where it stands in the range. It shouldn't need a reference chart to work it out.

I dont think its confusing for the new buyer as they can look up the website or ask the salesman if in doubt. Whereas for the used buyer lookin at a tractor on donedeal/agriaffaires it can sometimes be hard to decipher which model ur lookin at. But in fairness its more complicated with most brands as thers now so much choice in spec compared to 15-20 years ago

 

[ollie989898]

All the things you describe won't work with their planned obsolescence program though. Money is made from parts.

The problem is, that in many many industries, repeated downtime and machines stopped for repair just won't be tolerated, nearly irrespective of the brand in question. As CB said, once you have driven customers to another brand, getting them back is very difficult.

 

[daveydiesel1]

Is it 1 oclock today?

 

[kverneland es 80]

1.15

 

[Farma Parma]

Is it 1 oclock today?

1.15pm yep!!!

 

[Farma Parma]

dunno if it will just appear on here or you have to register?

https://newera.masseyferguson.com/

 

[SMID]

Registered, purely idle curiosity though.

 

[bert]

Hoping for a 5 post cab, would be better than 4 so you still have the smaller door to open and shut and a little window for fresh air. But doesn't look like we will get that from the preview.

Big clear easy to use screen that even my old man can read with out his glasses would be bonus along with simple and clear controls.

Cvt gearbox, comfortable ride, plenty of lift capacity and spools, good turning lock, big tool box and a fuel capacity for an 18 hour day at full throttle.

 

[Bullring]

Hoping for a 5 post cab, would be better than 4 so you still have the smaller door to open and shut and a little window for fresh air. But doesn't look like we will get that from the preview.

Big clear easy to use screen that even my old man can read with out his glasses would be bonus along with simple and clear controls.

Cvt gearbox, comfortable ride, plenty of lift capacity and spools, good turning lock, big tool box and a fuel capacity for an 18 hour day at full throttle.

Whatever it is, is guaranteed to be at least £10k more than any outgoing models and full of teething problems as it’s a new model.

 

[Richard Smyth]

Hoping for a 5 post cab, would be better than 4 so you still have the smaller door to open and shut and a little window for fresh air. But doesn't look like we will get that from the preview.

Big clear easy to use screen that even my old man can read with out his glasses would be bonus along with simple and clear controls.

Cvt gearbox, comfortable ride, plenty of lift capacity and spools, good turning lock, big tool box and a fuel capacity for an 18 hour day at full throttle.

its a 4 post cab. Same colour scheme as old 3000 series. Dyna 7 transmission and dyna vt. Called a 8S series. 2 Datatronic 5 screens. One on armrest and one which looks optional on a rail. Just seen a heap of pics from dealer release

 

[Richard Smyth]

 

[Speedstar]

dunno if it will just appear on here or you have to register?

https://newera.masseyferguson.com/

Have you got the popcorn and beer in ready for your film show today

 

[Richard Smyth]

 

[Dave6170]

Im not keen on that colour scheme!

 

[bert]

Whatever it is, is guaranteed to be at least £10k more than any outgoing models and full of teething problems as it’s a new model.

yes by the time we get one all teething problems will be history anyway

 

[Richard Smyth]

I don’t mind the colour actually. Didn’t like the black cabs when 6100 came out. But it grew on me

 

[Dave6170]

Like a modern 2640

 

[Henarar]

@Cowabunga will be getting one, it looks like a 500 series