One year away today, how will Scotland vote?

[fitlike min]

A Yes vote and we'll be fine,of course there will be some mistakes, but at least they will be our own to make!

No Trident, no illegal wars, no being outvoted 10:1 when something is to benefit Scotland, ARTB, etc...

Don't think Holyrood is any worse than Westminster.....Have some confidence in ourselves, vote YES

 

[Colin]

The civil servants employed in Edinburgh to implement the parliamentary decisions aren't fit to run a bath, never mind a country.

Most would not be employable in the private sector.

The culture is to do as little as possible that might cause your head to appear above the parapet. The route to promotion is to show that someone else on an equal pay grade is incompetent. No overtime is worked. Everyone is on flexitime so the majority "attend" for their hours Mon-Thurs to garner themselves a three day weekend.

The die was cast when they couldn't control the cost of the parliamentary building imo. A forty million estimate ends up costing £380 million!!!!

I'd dearly love a yes vote because I reckon it's the only hope that secure tenant farmers might get the absolute right to buy. Perhaps I'm being to harsh about the civil servants. Are the Whitehall shower any better?

If tenants got absolute right to buy would they pay the market price as it is a forced sale? Or would they still expect 50% of value!

 

[fitlike min]

Would pay the market price....valued with a secure sitting tenant farming the land.

 

[Colin]

Although I'm 90% in the NO camp, ag may do well in an independent scotland, a lot of our exports are ag based, mostly alcohol though! ARTB is a contentious issue really and as a farm manager I would so no to it, but that's just me.

 

[Colin]

Would pay the market price....valued with a secure sitting tenant farming the land.

How can it be valued like that though, when it's actually like vacant possession, IMHO

 

[fitlike min]

But it's not got vacant possession, there is a secure tenancy on the farm.

 

[Colin]

But the tenants buying it from under a landlord who doesn't want to sell it! Different if its a willing seller.

 

[fitlike min]

The landlords may not be wanting to sell, but they certainly do not want to invest in or maintain the farms or farmhouses in an acceptable condition,so without ARTB
there is only going to be further deterioration, leading to fewer businesses, children in schools,less use of local services,..etc
We are past the point of any other solution in Scotland than ARTB.

 

[d.iainm]

What's wrong with you? Do you not wish your nation to control their own destiny, for better or worse?

Are you a man, or a mouse.

Rabbie Burns is renowned for the following poem to a mouse.

Wee, sleekit, cow'rin, tim'rous beastie,
O, what a panic's in thy breastie!
Thou need na start awa sae hasty
Wi bickering brattle!
I wad be laith to rin an' chase thee,
Wi' murdering pattle.

I'm truly sorry man's dominion
Has broken Nature's social union,
An' justifies that ill opinion
Which makes thee startle
At me, thy poor, earth born companion
An' fellow mortal!

Still thou are blest, compared wi' me!
The present only toucheth thee:
But och! I backward cast my e'e,
On prospects drear!
An' forward, tho' I canna see,
I guess an' fear!

Written in 1785, it is equally valid today.

Haven't you got any balls?

Like you say for better or worse the SNP want to allow 16 year old's to vote because they are easily swayed by their talk of a big bad England not letting Scotland flourish. The policies they have at the moment are to please the majority in cities.
They talk of we have oil yes maybe if they went their separate ways in the early days but the oil is getting lower costing oil companies more to get it out if they get heavily taxed they will concentrate off the coast of Africa or South America where they are not taxed as heavily.
He wants to keep the Queen as head of state but HMRC might have a big say in how the oil money is divided any tax breaks or investment they have had so far have been from a British government. Is HMRC simply going to say there you go have all that oil money.
If we want to export renewable energy where are we going to export it to.
What currency are we going to have the euro does not look like a good option at the moment will we stick with the pound which is controlled by the bank of England and they will do what is best for them as far as inflation goes.
What demands could the EU set down for us to join the EU.
If the SRDP scheme is what the SNP do for agriculture or rural living I don't hold much hope.
If there is a yes vote do we get a vote in another few years to say we want to go back to how it is.
Too many variables and not enough concrete answers from Mr Salmond. I am not that happy with some aspects of the tories but the labour party never did that well either at least the tories held back before backing the yanks into another illegal war where our worn out troops are sent to loose their lives again

 

[IANTO]

A Yes vote and we'll be fine,of course there will be some mistakes, but at least they will be our own to make!

No Trident, no illegal wars, no being outvoted 10:1 when something is to benefit Scotland, ARTB, etc...

Don't think Holyrood is any worse than Westminster.....Have some confidence in ourselves, vote YES

A man after my own heart. I salute you.

 

[fitlike min]

Dinna believe what we are being telt by the papers or the telly,look at all the investment in oil work around Aiberdeen and you will ken that the coo's nay going dry yet!.

 

[IANTO]

If tenants got absolute right to buy would they pay the market price as it is a forced sale? Or would they still expect 50% of value!

The law in Scotland I know is different, but I was involved on behalf of a Client on a Claim by a Tenant.

The Tenant was renting land, and also a beneficiary under the Will of the Owner of the Land. He tried to Claim, that he could buy at a discount as a Sitting Tenant, and therefore receive a share of the residue.

Counsel's opinion stated, that for full control, he would have to pay the full value, or continue paying rent.

 

[fitlike min]

The law in Scotland I know is different, but I was involved on behalf of a Client on a Claim by a Tenant.

The Tenant was renting land, and also a beneficiary under the Will of the Owner of the Land. He tried to Claim, that he could buy at a discount as a Sitting Tenant, and therefore receive a share of the residue.

Counsel's opinion stated, that for full control, he would have to pay the full value, or continue paying rent.

Think that Scotland should be aiming for something like the Wyndham Act did in Ireland, it was a success was it not?

 

[grumpy]

Post independence would Scotland be looking at a eternity of socialist governments?

Seeing as the vote is going ahead now, then really it's up to the scots and what ever way the vote goes, that's got to be respected. I spose the bonus might be for us English hevens that labour never see power again!

and secure the English with forever a tory government

 

[exmoor dave]

and secure the English with forever a tory government

Ah but you'll be the wrong side of passport control to enjoy (not sure that's the right word mind) it grumps. You'll be living out your days in a socialist "paradise"

 

[grumpy]

Ah but you'll be the wrong side of passport control to enjoy (not sure that's the right word mind) it grumps. You'll be living out your days in a socialist "paradise"

no i wont it will get kicked in to touch only an idiot would vote yes,that said we are abound with idiots mind you there mostly in government.

 

[fitlike min]

no i wont it will get kicked in to touch only an idiot would vote yes,that said we are abound with idiots mind you there mostly in government.

What's so wrong in being classed as an idiot, if you're taking the choice you believe in?

 

[exmoor dave]

Problem I see is currency.....not looking like a good time to join the euro (unless you believe the lib dem speeches at their conference) &the pound will be controlled in London for the benefit of what's left of the UK (unless you believe what Salmond says about having a big say in the pound).

As I said earlier, what ever the decision, it should be respected. But we're already a small country/union but at least have some power in Europe. If Scotland sets the precedent for the break up of the UK, we'll just end up with zero power anywhere!

 

[grumpy]

What's so wrong in being classed as an idiot, if you're taking the choice you believe in?

your choice will make scotland a pee pot shyte hole no one in the world gives a toss about.

 

[fitlike min]

your choice will make scotland a pee pot shyte hole no one in the world gives a toss about.

No change there then......but at least there will be someone who is Happy!