overloading

[icanshootwell]

I helped a friend hauling hard core the other day, I have a 12 ton trailer on commercial axles, good brakes and tyres, I half filled the trailer thinking there would be approx 12 ton on it, but when on the road felt a lot more. In my defense, it is down to guess work if you hav,nt a weigher or weigh bridge handy.

 

[Cowcalf]

employer should be responsible TBH....he supplies the kit after all......often wonder how kit gets made/sold thats most likely be illegal if towed on a road

because it could be used within a farm on private roads or tested and taxed to run commercially

 

[michael N123]

because it could be used within a farm on private roads or tested and taxed to run commercially

Or full of feathers

 

[76masseyman]

Surely the weigh bridge is at fault for continually allowing overweight vehicles across it, as in aiding and abetting.
Go into Newark beet factory overweight, and you get a warning. Go a second time, you are sent away, and lose a permit.

 

[Lincsman]

Surely the weigh bridge is at fault for continually allowing overweight vehicles across it, as in aiding and abetting.
Go into Newark beet factory overweight, and you get a warning. Go a second time, you are sent away, and lose a permit.

They send you away onto the highway knowing you are overloaded?? is that allowed?

 

[Irish NZ]

A lot of trailer manufacturers export trailers to other countries with different rules.

Some of the laws in Europe are a lot different that the uk.

I know some Irish manufacturers have customers out in Saudi Arabia and other Arab countries doubt that they share the same laws with agricultural trailers

Robinson farms in America are using Smith super cube field master trailers. Which is also perfectly acceptable.

The argument about cars and the speed limit is moot. Because even tho the fastest you can go is 70mph legally on public roads in the uk you can also take it to a track to go faster... no different to a trailer on private roads.

Imagine telling if they only manufactured cars to do 70mph because that's the max speed limit in 1 country....the autobahn would be pretty boring.

 

[sawdust]

They send you away onto the highway knowing you are overloaded?? is that allowed?

They just refuse entry, it's up to you whether you go back onto the public roads illegal or not.

 

[quattro]

A lot of trailer manufacturers export trailers to other countries with different rules.

Some of the laws in Europe are a lot different that the uk.

I know some Irish manufacturers have customers out in Saudi Arabia and other Arab countries doubt that they share the same laws with agricultural trailers

Robinson farms in America are using Smith super cube field master trailers. Which is also perfectly acceptable.

The argument about cars and the speed limit is moot. Because even tho the fastest you can go is 70mph legally on public roads in the uk you can also take it to a track to go faster... no different to a trailer on private roads.

Imagine telling if they only manufactured cars to do 70mph because that's the max speed limit in 1 country....the autobahn would be pretty boring.

Lorry’s are all fixed speed 56mph!!

 

[Sonoftheheir]

I’ve noticed some massive orange tri axle trailers about on the road lately, all pulled by the biggest fast trac you can buy.

They were hauling onions.

No wonder why the A1101 that was closed for two months this year to be completely rebuilt due to subsidence is cracking again already!

 

[Nithsdale]

Lorry’s are all fixed speed 56mph!!

No they aren't

Followed a small (7.5t) fridge lorry doing about 65mph a fortnight ago I hadn't clocked what he was doing until he overtook an artic


We ain't the only industry which flaunts with the law (by no means suggesting it's OK!).

Forget tractors and trailers, look how many had/have older double cab pickups which were all 2.8t-3t tow capacity... yet they filled their livestock trailers to the max and carry on regardless

 

[General-Lee]

Said it on here before large contractor was hauling/selling (so every load weighed) clamped maize in 14-16t Baileys, one of the lads rolled a trailer on a roundabout problem was contents fell 10’ below in a Tesco petrol station.
When boss showed up driver was told in no uncertain terms to loose the weighbridge tickets in the hedge.

Unsure of weights wouldn’t be surprised with 40-50+ tons.

 

[Lincsman]

No they aren't

Followed a small (7.5t) fridge lorry doing about 65mph a fortnight ago I hadn't clocked what he was doing until he overtook an artic


We ain't the only industry which flaunts with the law (by no means suggesting it's OK!).

Forget tractors and trailers, look how many had/have older double cab pickups which were all 2.8t-3t tow capacity... yet they filled their livestock trailers to the max and carry on regardless

Some are OK to 70mph depending on age, my sisters MAN horsebox is surprisingly agile on the road... TNT heritage!

 

[Nithsdale]

Some are OK to 70mph depending on age, my sisters MAN horsebox is surprisingly agile on the road... TNT heritage!

None are OK above 50 on a single carriage road

 

[Agrispeed]

Tanker drivers tell me their spare wagon can do 72...

Is the limited gearing based or Electronic?

 

[Beowulf]

Tanker drivers tell me their spare wagon can do 72...

Is the limited gearing based or Electronic?

Electronic on anything reasonably modern. A common trick was to have the limiter calibrated using a set of barely legal tires, then get it back home and put a brand-new set on. Gave you a few km/h extra. I believe there has been a bit of a crackdown on that though.

Easiest way was to cross the calibration engineer's palm with silver, or more specifically a £50 note, and tell him how high you wanted it set. No idea if that still goes on or not, obviously I would never do such a thing.

 

[Lincsman]

Electronic on anything reasonably modern. A common trick was to have the limiter calibrated using a set of barely legal set of tires, then get it back home and put a brand-new set on. Gave you a few km/h extra. I believe there has been a bit of a crackdown on that though.

Easiest way was to cross the calibration engineer's palm with silver, or more specifically a £50 note, and tell him how high you wanted it set. No idea if that still goes on or not, obviously I would never do such a thing.

Does it not record how fast it has been going?

 

[Beowulf]

Does it not record how fast it has been going?

The tachograph does, but unless there was an accident nobody would be paying much attention to the speeds it recorded - merely the driving hours.

 

[Agrispeed]

Electronic on anything reasonably modern. A common trick was to have the limiter calibrated using a set of barely legal tires, then get it back home and put a brand-new set on. Gave you a few km/h extra. I believe there has been a bit of a crackdown on that though.

Easiest way was to cross the calibration engineer's palm with silver, or more specifically a £50 note, and tell him how high you wanted it set. No idea if that still goes on or not, obviously I would never do such a thing.

Tanker drivers were surprised to find it was going so quickly. Its a newish wagon from another depot but they hate it, even if their day is that bit shorter. going that quick is probably quite exciting with half a load and a drag on sloshing around.

I was over taken at 75 by an irish wagon the other day. I thought the days of the magnet on the gearbox had long gone

 

[Mur Huwcun]

The tachograph does, but unless there was an accident nobody would be paying much attention to the speeds it recorded - merely the driving hours.

Digi card would record overspeed infringements when you downloaded it, wouldn’t want them on my card or printouts!!!

 

[Beowulf]

Digi card would record overspeed infringements when you downloaded it, wouldn’t want them on my card or printouts!!!

An "overspeed" event is not a tachograph infringement in the legal sense, or at least it wasn't 5 years ago.