Paying before receiving goods

[Tatto]

I paid for fodder beet upfront to help someone out with money issues, when the time came for it to be lifted it was rotten, where do I stand?

 

[Yale]

Refund as no goods delivered?

 

[john432]

The seller now has rotten beet, more financial problems, and returning your money! Good luck with it...

 

[Derrick Hughes]

That's a hard one

 

[goodevans]

Did he buy your equipment at farm sale

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Here's another one
If you buy straw at an auction and the shed burns down before you collect , who's loss is it ?

 

[nelson]

the farmers whos shed it is

 

[Stewartry hill]

Here's another one
If you buy straw at an auction and the shed burns down before you collect , who's loss is it ?

if you are wise you would insure it

 

[Derrick Hughes]

the farmers whos shed it is

If you read the Auctioneers small print it's clearly states the goods become the buyers responsibility at the fall of the hammer and its up to him to take out appropriate insurance
We are insured for over 100 k for goods bought but not yet collected

 

[Tamar]

I paid for fodder beet upfront to help someone out with money issues, when the time came for it to be lifted it was rotten, where do I stand?

Your day is just getting beter and better !!



..............but was it that the beet harvestor that you sold at auction, didn't work.........hence the reason the beet wasn't lifted !?! Asking for a friend

 

[Flatland guy]

If you read the Auctioneers small print it's clearly states the goods become the buyers responsibility at the fall of the hammer and its up to him to take out appropriate insurance
We are insured for over 100 k for goods bought but not yet collected

The only complication is if the buyer has not paid for the item/goods. It is always strange with machinery auctions become buyers responsibility upon fall of hammer but not allowed to move etc until paid for!

 

[CPF]

You are having some bad luck in your to threads

 

[Exfarmer]

If you read the Auctioneers small print it's clearly states the goods become the buyers responsibility at the fall of the hammer and its up to him to take out appropriate insurance
We are insured for over 100 k for goods bought but not yet collected

yes but if the straw burns because of an electrical fault in your shed, the other man's insurance will chase you for it. Better to have double insurance than none

 

[Rnold]

Sorry to read this but surely you have lost YOUR fodder beet if you had paid for it. It no longer belonged to the grower. Could it not then have been insured in the same way you would insure your other crops. Rotting due to flooding ?

 

[Exfarmer]

Sorry to read this but surely you have lost YOUR fodder beet if you had paid for it. It no longer belonged to the grower. Could it not then have been insured in the same way you would insure your other crops. Rotting due to flooding ?

fodder beet is very prone too frost even more than Sugar beet. Should have been out the ground long ago

 

[B R C]

What does the seller have to say about it?

 

[Mc115reed]

Sorry to read this but surely you have lost YOUR fodder beet if you had paid for it. It no longer belonged to the grower. Could it not then have been insured in the same way you would insure your other crops. Rotting due to flooding ?

I didn’t think you could insure against acts of god?

 

[Derrick Hughes]

I didn’t think you could insure against acts of god?

The do in the US , but we are not the US are we

 

[Goweresque]

Sorry to read this but surely you have lost YOUR fodder beet if you had paid for it. It no longer belonged to the grower. Could it not then have been insured in the same way you would insure your other crops. Rotting due to flooding ?

There is a difference though between if the OP bought 'X tonnes of beet to be delivered to my yard on Y date' or he bought 'X acres of beet lying in field Y'.

I would say a lot depends on the person who was supposed to be responsible for harvesting it - if the beet grower was then I'd say liability lies with him until he has got his crop in. Its like selling grain forward - if the crop doesn't yield what you thought it would and you've sold more forward than you end up harvesting then its your responsibility to make good on the contract. But if the OP was supposed to be lifting it, then it is indeed his problem, just as if you buy a standing crop of wheat and the weather prevents you from combining it.

I suspect in this case there won't be any paperwork at all, just a verbal agreement, which means its almost certainly going to end in tears.

 

[Rnold]

I didn’t think you could insure against acts of god?

You can insure against almost anything if you are prepared to pay the premiums. Hail is just one act of god you can insure against for crops.. And then there is also consequential loss policies that cover for knock on effects after the initial loss ie failure to deliver contract..