Peterborough

[Danllan]

I would have thought that the procession of US presidents who have proclaimed and sought to uphold Christian values is very much an indication of strong religious influence, if not directly by established church leaders then certainly by proxy. It is worth noting from the recent images of the Normandy cemeteries that that all the fallen were buried under a cross.

Hitherto religion has formed a definite background to many presidents' policies, but now the religious right are framing policy. I can't comment on US graves, but the CWC default for British soldiers was to assume a Christian burial, that to be changed if further information was available.

 

[Scribus]

Hitherto religion has formed a definite background to many presidents' policies, but now the religious right are framing policy. I can't comment on US graves, but the CWC default for British soldiers was to assume a Christian burial, that to be changed if further information was available.

I'm not entirely sure in what way they are now directly framing US policy as opposed to indirectly pulling the strings of past administrations.

 

[Highland Mule]

Hitherto religion has formed a definite background to many presidents' policies, but now the religious right are framing policy. I can't comment on US graves, but the CWC default for British soldiers was to assume a Christian burial, that to be changed if further information was available.

Did the dog tags not list a religion? I seem to recall plenty Jewish graves on my visits to the Somme, for whicha cross would definitely not have been appropriate.

 

[Scribus]

Did the dog tags not list a religion? I seem to recall plenty Jewish graves on my visits to the Somme, for whicha cross would definitely not have been appropriate.

Thinking back the Star of David was also visible at Normandy.

 

[Highland Mule]

Thinking back the Star of David was also visible at Normandy.

And other religious symbols too, as appropriate, I’m sure. Others may have first hand experience, but I’m sure the call up papers allow the recruit to state their religion.

 

[Scribus]

And other religious symbols too, as appropriate, I’m sure. Others may have first hand experience, but I’m sure the call up papers allow the recruit to state their religion.

Wikipedia to the rescue -

These burials are marked by white Lasa marble headstones, 9,238 of which are Latin crosses (for Protestants and Catholics) and 150 of which are stars of David (for Jews). Since these were the only three religions recognized at the time by the United States Army, no other type of markers are present.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normandy_American_Cemetery_and_Memorial

Unfortunately it isn't clear what the third recognised religion is, unless they are counting Protestantism and Catholicism as two different religions.

 

[Danllan]

Did the dog tags not list a religion? I seem to recall plenty Jewish graves on my visits to the Somme, for whicha cross would definitely not have been appropriate.

Yes, but lots of people were in bits with no tags...

 

[Highland Mule]

Yes, but lots of people were in bits with no tags...

Can’t “like” that.

 

[br jones]

Yes, but lots of people were in bits with no tags...

15kgs ,is required today to constitute a body ,enough for a funeral

 

[Danllan]

15kgs ,is required today to constitute a body ,enough for a funeral

Is that a civvy one? I know of a funeral for a fellow killed in Afghanistan of whom there was very little left, I am sure it was significantly less than 15kg.

 

[br jones]

Serving soldiers

 

[baabaa]

mmmmm
reports of alleged massive voter fraud
why does that come as no surprise?

 

[uztrac]

mmmmm
reports of alleged massive voter fraud
why does that come as no surprise?

From what I am understanding on this it would appear that over 6,000 postal ( labour) votes appeared ?

 

[Henarar]

mmmmm
reports of alleged massive voter fraud
why does that come as no surprise?

what reports ?

 

[le bon paysan]

Not a clue. But it is fun on here at the moment. Was going off to take my son to cricket and then walk some fields - but cricket is now cancelled, so may stay here a wee while to see how much conspiracy we can all cram into this thread.

Thanks for the link. I was vaguely aware. I am following the situation in USA currently where Roe v Roe seems to be under assault from right wing Republicans. hey ho.

Roe v. Wade, legal case in which the U.S. Supreme Court on January 22, 1973, ruled (7–2) that unduly restrictive state regulation of abortion is unconstitutional. ... With regard to the fetus, the court located that point at “capability of meaningful life outside the mother's womb,” or viability.

 

[le bon paysan]

Sorry, yes, I did not think you were catching me out as such. It was the abortion one. Sorry. I just find it pretty awful that women are not allowed to have freedom of choice. While I accept readily that a few women may make the wrong choice and that the unborn child may have no say to remove the freedoms just to me seems to take society back so many years.

I concur with your observation that we seem to be living through a period when religion has gained political traction after so many decades of retreat.

Hey ho, Best wishes,

There's also the fact that forcing a woman to have an unwanted child is cruel, both to the woman and the child. The woman may be incapable of looking after that child for many reasons. Was it Alabama that stated even in the case of incestuous rape of a minor she must bare the child?
What times to be a female in the south of USA

 

[Muck Spreader]

There's also the fact that forcing a woman to have an unwanted child is cruel, both to the woman and the child. The woman may be incapable of looking after that child for many reasons. Was it Alabama that stated even in the case of incestuous rape of a minor she must bare the child?
What times to be a female in the south of USA

Any doctor in Alabama carrying out an abortion for whatever reason will face life imprisonment as well.

 

[Scribus]

what reports ?

An article here from the Peterborough Telegraph-

https://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk...n-as-police-investigate-allegations-1-8959871

The council say everything is tickety boo while the police have opened an investigation, so everything might not turn out to be tickety boo after all.

 

[Danllan]

Roe v. Wade, legal case in which the U.S. Supreme Court on January 22, 1973, ruled (7–2) that unduly restrictive state regulation of abortion is unconstitutional. ... With regard to the fetus, the court located that point at “capability of meaningful life outside the mother's womb,” or viability.

It's an interesting insight into US jurisprudence that a great part of the judgement in Roe v Wade was based on privacy...

 

[uztrac]

Just as I suspected massive corruption in the recent vote in Peterborough. Todays " Sunday Times" has half a page investigating the vote rigging by Labour at this poll.Nearly 10 ,000 postal votes,the majority going to the Labour party.
From their research it would appear that over 1,000 votes for the Brexit Party were burnt,prior to being counted,and that some votes for the Labour party were forged. Welcome to third world U.K. 2019,even Zimbabwe could could not improve upon this !!!!