Planting hill farm

[Weasel]

Do you need planning permission to plant hundreds of acres of hill? Is there any way to stop the planting? Is there certain reasons they won't plant certain ground? In Scotland if it makes any difference. Cheers

 

[Hilly]

Do you need planning permission to plant hundreds of acres of hill? Is there any way to stop the planting? Is there certain reasons they won't plant certain ground? In Scotland if it makes any difference. Cheers

Yes, doubt it as government 100% onside of forestry, to steep or to wet perhaps that`s about it.

 

[davieh3350]

Do you need planning permission to plant hundreds of acres of hill? Is there any way to stop the planting? Is there certain reasons they won't plant certain ground? In Scotland if it makes any difference. Cheers

Are you near a recently sold hill farm near Dunkeld bought by the commission, or possibly up towards trinafour?
I doubt it's not at glengoulandie because that's already been wasted

 

[digger don]

Wow sounds major!

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Would it not be a good idea to plant unproductive Hill. That's put as a question . The country will soon be running out of timber

 

[Hilly]

Would it not be a good idea to plant unproductive Hill. That's put as a question . The country will soon be running out of timber

No it would not, what makes you think we are going to run out of timber soon ?

 

[digger don]

Would it not be a good idea to plant unproductive Hill. That's put as a question . The country will soon be running out of timber

What plant all the hills so it can be cut and burnt as chip in some crazy so called eco boiler thats paied for by the tax payer?

 

[digger don]

No it would not, what makes you think we are going to run out of timber soon ?

We will run out in the end the way we keep burning it!

 

[Hilly]

We will run out in the end the way we keep burning it!

If its sitca spruce burning is all its good for because for anything else it is pure shyt the worst timber ever.

 

[Dave6170]

What plant all the hills so it can be cut and burnt as chip in some crazy so called eco boiler thats paied for by the tax payer?

They mulched about 1000 acres of really good trees here to put a windfarm on. Tax payers money to plant them, tax payers to mulch them. Country is all to feck!

 

[Hilly]

They mulched about 1000 acres of really good trees here to put a windfarm on. Tax payers money to plant them, tax payers to mulch them. Country is all to feck!

And electric payers money to sub windmills, none of it adds up., as you say country is all to fek.

 

[digger don]

If its sitca spruce burning is all its good for because for anything else it is pure shyt the worst timber ever.

Hahahaha! I second that really!
Still there is a use for white wood and alot of good wood is chipped now to keep up with demands. Its wasteful

 

[Dave6170]

And electric payers money to sub windmills, none of it adds up., as you say country is all to fek.

You couldnt make it up. They laid roads to build the windfarm, just perfect for hauling out logs!
The rspb have flattened huge areas of trees in sutherland aswell. Chopped them at the ground and laid them flat to rot. Thinking it ll return to peatland. Aye maybe in 1000 years.

 

[Osca]

What are they going to plant it with? Broadleaves or conifers?

What are the real objections to planting? I know the harvesting is messy, but it isn't annual. Spruce as far as the eye can see is probably not good ecologically and is a bit forbidding - and forestry plantings can screw up the drainage (I have seen hill ground in Wales turned into marsh by forestry planting on the slopes below it - I think they just ploughed great trenches through the watercourses) but done properly - mixed forest and a bit of common sense - what is really wrong with it?

 

[Hilly]

You couldnt make it up. They laid roads to build the windfarm, just perfect for hauling out logs!
The rspb have flattened huge areas of trees in sutherland aswell. Chopped them at the ground and laid them flat to rot. Thinking it ll return to peatland. Aye maybe in 1000 years.

Argh man ffs the country is all to fek where will it end.

 

[digger don]

You couldnt make it up. They laid roads to build the windfarm, just perfect for hauling out logs!
The rspb have flattened huge areas of trees in sutherland aswell. Chopped them at the ground and laid them flat to rot. Thinking it ll return to peatland. Aye maybe in 1000 years.

Ye its mad mulch the trees because its not viable to get the timber out of there!. Then!! Build a road to access for the wind farm! I see the sence there

 

[Hilly]

Be interesting to see what happens to forestry grants in future.

 

[digger don]

Be interesting to see what happens to forestry grants in future.

There are no grants to be had now! Well not for planting or tracks (in wales anyway) but there are grants for machinery! Some of the forestry boys get unbelievable amounts of funding!

 

[kelpiekid]

I think forestation of the uplands is the way it is going to go in the near future. The amount of timber going out of North and mid Wales each day down the A5 is not sustainable. I think subsidies for upland will revert to planting trees. I don't like it personally but I do think this is the way it is going to go in the future.

 

[Weasel]

What are they going to plant it with? Broadleaves or conifers?

What are the real objections to planting? I know the harvesting is messy, but it isn't annual. Spruce as far as the eye can see is probably not good ecologically and is a bit forbidding - and forestry plantings can screw up the drainage (I have seen hill ground in Wales turned into marsh by forestry planting on the slopes below it - I think they just ploughed great trenches through the watercourses) but done properly - mixed forest and a bit of common sense - what is really wrong with it?

They will plant it with spruce with a bit hard wood on the outside. You ask what is wrong with it? What's right with it. A lot of estates are taking half the farm off tenants leaving the farm not viable, ruining local communitys and generations of work. Just to get a grant to plant trees that are gonna take 40 years before they get any money back!