Pneumonia in Calves

[The Agrarian]

Just seen this. If it's panting heavily despite antibiotic and metacam, I reckon it's mycoplasma. And I wouldn't hold out much hope for it. Sorry.

 

[jed]

Vet tells me that Zeleris treats mycroplasma .
Hmm not sure about that but then I suppose he’s selling it !

 

[Zippy768]

Vet tells me that Zeleris treats mycroplasma .
Hmm not sure about that but then I suppose he’s selling it !

Hard with the draxxin on a mycoplasma case

 

[cozzie]

Hard with the draxxin on a mycoplasma case

How hard?

 

[Zippy768]

How hard?

Make sure the bottle smashes

 

[The Agrarian]

Aftermarket Draxxin called Tullavis is a lot cheaper. I personally dont have faith in Zeleris or Zactranfor mycoplasma. I have feeling Draxxin/Tullavis is better, but there's still a significant failure rate with it. You can't hit them early enough. Best time I find to see them is 15 mins after I feed groups milk in the trough followed by meal. A calf going off but still having almost normal appetite will lie down quicker than the rest after feed (or hanging suspiciously at the back of the pen), when it should still be up grazing hard feed. I reckon that it's too late by the time you see the calf slower than normal at coming forward for milk.

Also, I find it easier to see elevated ventilation rate when lying rather than on feet moving around. (Just thinking, some of your feeding practice may be different from mine. I feed milk and meal in the same trough, only giving what meal they will clear up between feeds. Almost ad lib, but not quite, so they have an appetite for meal again after 2x milk.)

 

[cozzie]

have a few down with Larynx pneumonia at the moment, as always a b*****d to cure. anyone got something out of the ordinary or found some mix of drugs that are hitting it?.

its been a hard winter on cattle, way too many losses, a hangover from the bad summer I reckon

 

[Zippy768]

have a few down with Larynx pneumonia at the moment, as always a b*****d to cure. anyone got something out of the ordinary or found some mix of drugs that are hitting it?.

its been a hard winter on cattle, way too many losses, a hangover from the bad summer I reckon

You are not alone.

What is Larynx?

 

[Zippy768]

Aftermarket Draxxin called Tullavis is a lot cheaper. I personally dont have faith in Zeleris or Zactranfor mycoplasma. I have feeling Draxxin/Tullavis is better, but there's still a significant failure rate with it. You can't hit them early enough. Best time I find to see them is 15 mins after I feed groups milk in the trough followed by meal. A calf going off but still having almost normal appetite will lie down quicker than the rest after feed (or hanging suspiciously at the back of the pen), when it should still be up grazing hard feed. I reckon that it's too late by the time you see the calf slower than normal at coming forward for milk.

Also, I find it easier to see elevated ventilation rate when lying rather than on feet moving around. (Just thinking, some of your feeding practice may be different from mine. I feed milk and meal in the same trough, only giving what meal they will clear up between feeds. Almost ad lib, but not quite, so they have an appetite for meal again after 2x milk.)

Tullavis is way cheaper than draxxin.
Zactran wont do alot on mycoplasma. Imo, zactran has lost its potency on most things.

 

[cozzie]

You are not alone.

What is Larynx?

pneumonia up in at the top of the windpipe/larynx. they will be making allot of grunting noise

 

[som farmer]

we still single pen calves, easy to spot anyone not keen for its milk, they either slow coming up, or quick lying down.

we use alymcin la, find it works well, calves have balvolto at 7 days. Any problems post weaning, if one is showing signs, coughing, panting etc, treat whole pen with alymycin.

but its been a shite winter for calves, simply to many different weather conditions every day, they are only babies.

ventilation in rearing sheds is really important, especially if changing weather, on a near daily basis.

one thing we have found, calves that require multiple injections, never really do, and can hold bunches back. Hard as it seems, they really ought to go, or at least taken out of batches. They end up losing you money.

 

[Zippy768]

pneumonia up in at the top of the windpipe/larynx. they will be making allot of grunting noise

Had used Steroids in the past, however was told yesterday that recent studies suggest that has v little effect. Instead I was left with another drug for an ill animal (vet was here doing tb anyway). Cannot remember it's name, but they use it on calving cows to relax internals. Can look at the paperwork tomorrow

 

[TelesnaAg]

have a few down with Larynx pneumonia at the moment, as always a b*****d to cure. anyone got something out of the ordinary or found some mix of drugs that are hitting it?.

its been a hard winter on cattle, way too many losses, a hangover from the bad summer I reckon

I am using zinc and now vitamin E as they lower levels when off grass, and we graze all year here, but when appetite surpreseed important levels naturally lower, id also suspect the body ramps the use of vitamin and mineral reserves feed lot atudies woth oz mla found this.

My vet wont use draxxin due to antibiotics resistance, which i personally question with a herd of 28 million spread over the land mass of europe and where 1/3 of that herd is seperated by vast deserts the size of countries.

My pet steer lapsed again so we have taken blood samples to check if its brd and which strain and mineral and vitamin levels.

Oxytet doesn't do all 4 strains so i am pissing in the wind with this terrible oz approach to brd.

The vitamin AD and E injection yesterday seems to have helped.

Also seeing mild acidosis from very minimal pellets hes getting, like 330gm a day for 320kg steer, normally he eats double that no issue with grass and hay amd has been lumping on weight.

Ant....

 

[HarryB97]

pneumonia up in at the top of the windpipe/larynx. they will be making allot of grunting noise

Had two like that last year, both died in the following months. Like you said it’s a nightmare to target!

 

[Farmworker82]

We have recently had an outbreak of mycoplasma and our vets said only Draxxin or Terramycin and metacam to treat. in my experience neither work if you don’t treat early enough, the only way we are getting on top of it is to take each animal’s temperature and inject if slightly raised, we have been running them through every 4 days for two weeks, going to vaccinate from now on!

 

[The Agrarian]

I tried the myco B vaccine and didn't feel there was any benefit.

 

[Zippy768]

We have recently had an outbreak of mycoplasma and our vets said only Draxxin or Terramycin and metacam to treat. in my experience neither work if you don’t treat early enough, the only way we are getting on top of it is to take each animal’s temperature and inject if slightly raised, we have been running them through every 4 days for two weeks, going to vaccinate from now on!

Vaccinate with what?

 

[Farmworker82]

There is a new vaccine out they need two doses three weeks apart it called mycroplasma bovis vaccine

 

[HarryB97]

There is a new vaccine out they need two doses three weeks apart it called mycroplasma bovis vaccineView attachment 1157931

Can you give it at the same time as Bovalto 4 and other pneumonia vaccines?

 

[twizzel]

Can you give it at the same time as Bovalto 4 and other pneumonia vaccines?

Expect not, as they won’t have been tested together and the immune system can’t give a good enough response to 2 vaccines at once. We use 2 pneumonia vaccines and have to leave a fortnight between jabs.