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Potatoes yes or no !

Discussion in 'Cropping' started by samsung, Jan 2, 2019.

  1. samsung

    samsung Member

    Location:
    North Yorks
    Thinking of growing some in a couple of years time.
    Growers locally seem to be doing ok.
    Contractor planted and lifted. We can do the rest with existing equipment.
    Crisp or chip contract or something different?.
    Storage shouldn't be a problem box or bulk?
    That'll do for now.. S
     
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  2. Courier

    Courier Member

    Area available x 4 or 5 ?
     
  3. Examine the impact on the following crop- volunteers in it and also lifting if the weather is dodgy.

    Is your spray operator going to be up to spraying them weekly and with the required hygiene?


    Other than that, a very very useful crop as breaks up the rotation and brings differing chemistry into play.
     
  4. Happy

    Happy Member

    Location:
    Scotland
  5. Exfarmer

    Exfarmer Member

    Location:
    Bury St Edmunds
    May be better letting your land. It is a huge investment, McCains contract is just good enough to provide a decent return if you get the right sample and correct tonnage
     
  6. chipchap

    chipchap Member

    Location:
    South Shropshire
    Most people who don’t grow potatoes think it’s a license to print money. They often do not realise the capital, work and risk involved.
    You need to be dedicated to the job to make a success of it, there’s plenty of rough to take with the smooth.
     
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  7. kiwi pom

    kiwi pom Member

    Location:
    canterbury NZ
    Do you have enough ground for a good rotation, is it decent spud ground? local weather, on average ok for spuds? Could you get a contract and are you prepared for all the extra work involved would be good questions to start with.
     
  8. kiwi pom

    kiwi pom Member

    Location:
    canterbury NZ
    The problem with contracts in the UK as I see it, is there's too many people planting non contract spuds and chancing it. So the processors can use it against you. Not enough spuds, you'll have to get them from someone else to fill your contract. Too many and they'll find fault with them especially if they can buy cheaper else where.
    Its another good example of farmers cutting each others throats to the processors advantage.
     
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  9. Exfarmer

    Exfarmer Member

    Location:
    Bury St Edmunds
    The McCains contract certainly used to have nice little catch in it, 15 years since I grew on it though. This was you had to gurantee the tonnage of salable product, say 1,000 tonnes. If you underachieved , you were penalised and contract tonnage could be lost.If you over performed , then it was market price and there is no real market for some of their varieties.
    Growing over tonnage soon cut margins hard.
     
  10. Courier

    Courier Member

    The days when riddling potatoes during winter was a job to fill in between milking are long gone.
     
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  11. Farmer-George

    Farmer-George Member

    Rent the ground out! That will be your best and most consistent return.
     
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  12. essex man

    essex man Member

    Location:
    colchester
    Used to grow them, now i rent the ground out.... much prefer it this way.
     
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  13. Honest john

    Honest john Member

    Location:
    Fenland
    There’s no money in a crisp or chip contract.
    If you are in it & have all the kit then it’s slim.

    There’s a gang renting near me that drive 40 miles. They have had two years in last three below required yield.
    I just don’t get it.
     
  14. chipchap

    chipchap Member

    Location:
    South Shropshire
    Depends on who your customers are and at what price John.
     
  15. Honest john

    Honest john Member

    Location:
    Fenland
    Agreed but we all know the prices offered from the big firms.
    You need to keep them till June to get about £170.
    A lot did just 5-8 tpa this year. Unirrigated.

    If you do a bag contract At 180-220 on a 2018 yield of 30tph it’s not going to cover your costs.

    So let’s say you had a bag contract in 2017 at Ave 200 for 25tph then the other 30tph on free buy at Ave 120 comes to 8600 ha would show a profit of 1100 ha or 445 ac.

    But in 2018 you Ave 30tph at 200 on the same contract 6000 ha. Leaves a loss of 1400 ha or a loss of 150Ha over the two yrs.

    That’s if every ship that sailed, resulted in a cheque cashed.
     
  16. chipchap

    chipchap Member

    Location:
    South Shropshire
    Every year is different, and every business has different costs and aspirations.
    I am happy with the relationships I have built with my customers over the last few years, and am confident that there is a good future. My customers are all family businesses operating on a similar scale to us; and I think a mutual respect has evolved which would be impossible with big business or an intermediate merchant involved.
     
  17. Honest john

    Honest john Member

    Location:
    Fenland
    Same for me.
    But Free buy not Contract.
     
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