Absolutely. Can you see the government following any of the recommendations if not challenged by farming interests?
Public Accounts Committee enquiry into ELMS
- Thread starter delilah
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Then that is our job. To keep pushing. Defra have said that they are committed to co-design. What they do in the light of this PAC report will determine whether co-design is a thing.
Brexit is the opportunity to source home grown food , and DEFRA want us to grow trees , clueless
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- Essex
To be fair, both would be possible. Some food does grow on trees you know!
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- Durham, UK
Are they commited to co design or are they just saying they are.
I think that the PAC actually has some members who are following threads here on TFF!
Just read the summary, and then go back (if you had the time) over the past 12months worth of comments and discussion here, and see if we missed ANYTHING at all.... I doubt it.
I think we need TFF in at the high level of "co-design", possibly Ministerial level...
So that is both EFRA and PAC who have come up with damning reports and conclusions... Time for Eustace to face up to the realities and go beyond the farcial greenwashing measures that will be the unsatisfactory outcome of ELMS, as it stands,.
Just read the summary, and then go back (if you had the time) over the past 12months worth of comments and discussion here, and see if we missed ANYTHING at all.... I doubt it.
I think we need TFF in at the high level of "co-design", possibly Ministerial level...
So that is both EFRA and PAC who have come up with damning reports and conclusions... Time for Eustace to face up to the realities and go beyond the farcial greenwashing measures that will be the unsatisfactory outcome of ELMS, as it stands,.
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If thats true and i hope it is at least they seem to be listening, the question is why isnt defra.
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- Essex
That's because it's the public accounts committee.
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- Essex
That's what happens in the rest of society. If there's a form to fill in or email to write, no problem, you can employ someone to do it. If you are up to budget and no more staff available, simple; it doesn't get done or you pass a law to get extra funding.
Give it to a farmer and he gets up early, does it himself and carries on working or gets the Mrs or one of the kids to sort it out. No one gets paid for that because the corporate food system only pays so much. It's why we have so many stupid dead tractor rules to comply with for no benefit, because we do it all for free.
The Seeker
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Finally nice to read that some one in Whitehall has commons sense.
GeorgeK
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- Leicestershire
Is that before or after we reach a consensus on how to strap bales to a trailer or the best way to compact a silage clamp?
Steevo
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- Gloucestershire
Don’t forget the best pickup!
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- Essex
It's the sheep breed I'm most concerned with.
Does make you wonder about the quality of staff at Defra, they cannot bring themselves to mention the word food production, but instead, exactly as the reports mentions export our ag along with it export our climate damage while importing lower quality food, but we think we are saving the world by planting some trees.
Look at Janet on the other thread, thinking how great the Sfi scheme is while totally missing the point, would not surprise me if she is a vegan activist at the heart of Defra producing such poor schemes so badly, while not understanding food production is a major public good.
Look at Janet on the other thread, thinking how great the Sfi scheme is while totally missing the point, would not surprise me if she is a vegan activist at the heart of Defra producing such poor schemes so badly, while not understanding food production is a major public good.
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Nope, Dead Horse out of a shed wins hands down every time!!! Did we ever learn how he got it out?????
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- Essex
Never saw that one
Point!
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- Cirencester
Oh dear, that'll be a full evening wasted then!! Very amusing!!!
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How to move a dead horse?
We have a slight problem 17.3.hh shire cross collapsed and died in it's stable last night on our small livery yard. It is a BIG beast. The problem is that it has died in about the worst possible place imaginable, at the end of an ancient stone barn with no way to get any sort of machinery to...
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Enjoy!!!!