Putting up a dutch barn roof

[Greenbeast]

We're looking at a second hand 'dutch barn' roof structure, no legs.

Thinking of sinking some telegraph poles in and bolting on.

How deep and wide should i go for concrete footings for each pole?

 

[Nearly]

Length of legs above ground?
Width of bays?
Span of frame?
Solid ground?

about 1m cube?
I was once told the main function of concrete is to hold legs down not hold them up.

 

[Greenbeast]

It's to cover our butchery unit, freezer and a loading bay for the chiller van, so we're only going about 9' above ground.
2 bays, 15' wide, 30' deep
Clay ground, some has been previously disturb and some virgin ground and firm

 

[KennyO]

Can you span from the containers and leave a gap in the middle?

 

[Kidds]

4-5' in the ground and don't use concrete was the advice I was given.

 

[Lincs Lass]

Concrete round wood traps water ,,thats why telewag poles have a wide base ,compact the soil back round them and they wont move

 

[TripleSix]

Our telegraph pole shed legs are just dug in about 3 feet.

They never move - and it gets windy here!

 

[Greenbeast]

4-5' in the ground and don't use concrete was the advice I was given.

Concrete round wood traps water ,,thats why telewag poles have a wide base ,compact the soil back round them and they wont move

I was afraid you we going to say that, although to be fair it'll be cheaper

 

[David.]

Do not concrete pole barn legs in. If you are going to concrete the floor or apron round them, leave 6" void around the legs.

 

[tw15]

We're looking at a second hand 'dutch barn' roof structure, no legs.

Thinking of sinking some telegraph poles in and bolting on.

How deep and wide should i go for concrete footings for each pole?

 

[tw15]

I think you would be better off with rsj instead of poles easier to work with and would look neater .

 

[milkloss]

I think you would be better off with rsj instead of poles easier to work with and would look neater .

Could even work out cheaper I should think, there’s not a massive amount of good poles about although they have been replacing some in our area of late if you can get them. I’ve tried pushing some notes the drivers way but no poles have turned up yet

 

[Deutzdx3]

Could even work out cheaper I should think, there’s not a massive amount of good poles about although they have been replacing some in our area of late if you can get them. I’ve tried pushing some notes the drivers way but no poles have turned up yet

Poles are readily available if you know where. I buy them all the time and cut them down to sell for gate posts etc. Biggest issue is their length uncut so normally cut to 18ft for fit our trailer.

Drill 3ft holes and back fill. Concrete if you’re in a rush but as said, Best to backfill. All my barns are pole barns. Economical way to do it.

 

[Greenbeast]

Could even work out cheaper I should think, there’s not a massive amount of good poles about although they have been replacing some in our area of late if you can get them. I’ve tried pushing some notes the drivers way but no poles have turned up yet

they dropped 4 new ones at the bottom of the lane recently, kept my eyes peeled for the crew but they must have come and dropped them in whilst i was out.

The guy with the roof structure has poles he'll cut down to size for us, no roof sheets though, so we're looking at plastic sheet

 

[Pan mixer]

Mate put the holes in with a Bobcat and big soil auger, it took minutes and the barn is still there 20 years later.

 

[Greenbeast]

How much effort is involved in the backfill, i was once told all the soil that comes out should go back in, which i've tried to stick to with gate posts

 

[milkloss]

Poles are readily available if you know where.

You’re going to have to share now!

 

[Deutzdx3]

You’re going to have to share now!

Happily sell you some at a very good price. [emoji12]

 

[multi power]

Plenty of telephone poles for sale local to me £2.50 a foot

 

[multi power]

As for concreting in wooden posts I was told once concrete sets pour hot bitumen into the gap between post and concreac