range command

[stuart]

when the tractor is under load and i change from b6 to c1 there is a grinding sound is it a clutch pack on the way out tia stuart

 

[mushnt grummmble]

Synchros more like

 

[Kevtherev]

Yep synchros on way out!

 

[stuart]

thanks is it a big job tractor only had 3000 hours on it when we got it last year put another 1200 on it is it usual for them to got at this sort of hours

 

[Kevtherev]

Peter at Teme valley tractors will sort you out
07980891222
He will give you an idea of costs

 

[Drillman]

thanks is it a big job tractor only had 3000 hours on it when we got it last year put another 1200 on it is it usual for them to got at this sort of hours

Had synchros go on my TM155 at 3000 hrs. only had tractor for a week at that point. Think previous owner knew they were duff and chopped it in. Fortunately the dealer stood the bill

 

[TomB]

I think if you dip the clutch when you change range it stops it grinding.

 

[newholland]

If you take the time to read the operators manual, it states quite clearly to dip the clutch when changing B to C if the tractor is under heavy load.

 

[stuart]

If you take the time to read the operators manual, it states quite clearly to dip the clutch when changing B to C if the tractor is under heavy load.

if you take the time to read the first post properly i said under load not heavy load basically it started doing it when you have any trailer full or empty

 

[Drillman]

Ok so what's the difference between using the button on the back of the stick verses using the clutch to change range?

 

[chris a list]

Ok so what's the difference between using the button on the back of the stick verses using the clutch to change range?

the button may align synchro? and clutch disengages drive completely?

 

[bazza3034]

when the tractor is under load and i change from b6 to c1 there is a grinding sound is it a clutch pack on the way out tia stuart

It will cost you the guts of 3 gs if you strip her down there is no pointn putn 1 synchro in her we just done it two an f140 same box

 

[stuart]

Ok so what's the difference between using the button on the back of the stick verses using the clutch to change range?

tried it using the clutch this morning and it still does it

 

[newholland]

if you take the time to read the first post properly i said under load not heavy load basically it started doing it when you have any trailer full or empty

Apologies, no offence intended. I was really just thinking and writing with interest in regard to TomB post about clutching. It does take a lot of time to read the operators manual from cover to cover......I am terrible for jumping onto a tractor and thinking I know it all, but was surprised interested at how many extra little hidden things the operators manual covered. The super dexta days are long gone.

I often wondered if that's why the synchros fail - have done quite a few - some lasted 3000hrs and some never touched in 12000 hrs. Different makes / quality of syncro perhaps, but chatting to the drivers of failed tractors, none of them used the clutch when changing ranges under load.

But there again, it is probably shunting forwards reverse which kills the most of them on range command. Power command is worth the money for sure!

 

[newholland]

tried it using the clutch this morning and it still does it

Yes, the syncro is already shagged or syncro rail half broken through perhapse. Either way you got a £3500 bill minimum.

 

[stuart]

Apologies, no offence intended. I was really just thinking and writing with interest in regard to TomB post about clutching. It does take a lot of time to read the operators manual from cover to cover......I am terrible for jumping onto a tractor and thinking I know it all, but was surprised interested at how many extra little hidden things the operators manual covered. The super dexta days are long gone.

I often wondered if that's why the synchros fail - have done quite a few - some lasted 3000hrs and some never touched in 12000 hrs. Different makes / quality of syncro perhaps, but chatting to the drivers of failed tractors, none of them used the clutch when changing ranges under load.

But there again, it is probably shunting forwards reverse which kills the most of them on range command. Power command is worth the money for sure!

no worries sorry if i was a bit sharp just stressful trying to get it through to boss that it needs doing sharpish

 

[Kevtherev]

Yes, the syncro is already shagged or syncro rail half broken through perhapse. Either way you got a £3500 bill minimum.

Did the 60 series have dual cone synchros?
Later ones not?