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Yes and I’m going to do some again on Monday for a chap will keep you posted on the results.Anyone any joy overseeding or stitching in red clover?
Quite useful in that it’s deep rooting to help soil structure.
Yes and I’m going to do some again on Monday for a chap will keep you posted on the results.Anyone any joy overseeding or stitching in red clover?
Always been curious with the cattle job as I’ve not seen any reduced fertility grazing a red clover ley when bulling?Remember with Red clover grazing ewes near to tupping time can have an effect on fertility but some graze with no problems.
Don’t cut or graze red clover to low as it can damage its crown.
Sheep puddling it on very wet weather it doesn’t like much.
Take care tedding red clover leys as the leaf can get lost easily losing potential protein in the process.
(These are tips I’ve picked up from growing it myself and on customers farms not something I’ve read on TFF and regurgitated it as my own knowledge)
If sown now, when would it be cut?Yes and I’m going to do some again on Monday for a chap will keep you posted on the results.
Quite useful in that it’s deep rooting to help soil structure.
Always read the labelDid two 12 acre fields two month s ago , 1 kg white 2 kg Red , ones come well the other nothing at all , I remember now I sprayed the one field with Hurler last Summer, seems to have effected it , I've got a fealing it overseed s better than grass
Yes with great success, I’ve some RC and vetch in at the moment as a chap protein sauce and N fixer for following crop. It’s up and going nicely after two weeks in the ground even in the baking hot and no rainAnyone any joy overseeding or stitching in red clover?
Depends on how well it establishes to be honestIf sown now, when would it be cut?
Am I right in thinking that it's it's not particularly productive in it's first season compared to those thereafter?Depends on how well it establishes to be honest
Some cut it after about 3-4 months in an Italian mix
So many variables and no two fields or locations are the same.
Terrible in the first cut you’ll ever take off it and you’ll almost wonder if there’s any clover in there. 50kgs an acre of N in its first cutting will spit the grass on enough to get a good crop of something then second cut it’ll start swamping the place and you’ll wonder if you’ve any grass I know I certainly didAm I right in thinking that it's it's not particularly productive in it's first season compared to those thereafter?
CorrectAm I right in thinking that it's it's not particularly productive in it's first season compared to those thereafter?
Can it be sown in the Autumn so that it's ready to go the following spring?Terrible in the first cut you’ll ever take off it and you’ll almost wonder if there’s any clover in there. 50kgs an acre of N in its first cutting will spit the grass on enough to get a good crop of something then second cut it’ll start swamping the place and you’ll wonder if you’ve any grass I know I certainly did
I've just done the same, with some crimson clover as well.Yes with great success, I’ve some RC and vetch in at the moment as a chap protein sauce and N fixer for following crop. It’s up and going nicely after two weeks in the ground even in the baking hot and no rain
Don’t think it affects cattle fertility but I’d be concerned with bloat in a very high RC ley again down to management though.Always been curious with the cattle job as I’ve not seen any reduced fertility grazing a red clover ley when bulling?
Agree with Kev on all that, most important part about RC is keep the mower up off the crown, you’ll soon be pee'd at the lack of it when your done. Pretty much goes for most mowing as well, I started leaving a 4/5” stubble mainly because I couldn’t be arsed changing the bed when going from clover to straight grass and the recovery time is a good week better overall
Being patient pays.Correct
It needs time to establish plenty I never like cutting new leys too soon.
Graze ours later in year, never had a case of bloat on RCDon’t think it affects cattle fertility but I’d be concerned with bloat in a very high RC ley again down to management though.
bit of veg oil in the water trough everyday sorts that problemDon’t think it affects cattle fertility but I’d be concerned with bloat in a very high RC ley again down to management though.
If I’m doing a full reseed yes, best to have it in in back end, light graze over winter and watch it go bang in the spring. I’ve 10 acre of three year old seeds and this spring has blown me away. The bulk and lushness of the grass is unreal and no NCan it be sown in the Autumn so that it's ready to go the following spring?
Sids dead right, patients is key with cloverBeing patient pays.
Treat your ley right and she will keep coming back for more.....as the Bishop said to the Actress
Learn something new every day herebit of veg oil in the water trough everyday sorts that problem
Will do ok on dampish ground but won’t tolerate water logging.What ground suits red clover best, dry free draining. What is it like on heavy ground. I have a choice and possibly give it a go if it suited.