Red Tractor and Grain passports - which grainstore?

[Steevo]

Had the attached email from Red Tractor today:

Red Tractor Member Mailing​ ​

Dear Red Tractor Crops Member,

We are getting in touch to notify you of changes to the Combinable Crops Passports service. What is changing? Over the past few years, the Red Tractor Crops Certification Bodies have collected explicit storage data for all Crops scheme members. This new data means the Combinable Crops Passports service can now being updated, so that the grain store from which grain is being collected can be specified when registering a new passport. What to expect From the end of the harvest season this year (1st November 2023), you will see a new "Grain Store" drop-down list on the first step of the Create a Passport page: You will be required to select the appropriate option when creating a passport. What options will be in the Grain Store list? Based on the selected Membership and Collection Address, the new drop-down list will contain options for all of the associated Grain Stores, plus one option for "Collection direct from site / temporary store". Changing the selected Membership or Collection Address will refresh the list of Grain Stores accordingly. Each option will be prefixed to indicate whether it is presently suitable for the collection of grain: "CAN COLLECT" means that the option is suitable for the collection of grain at the present time of year. "CANNOT COLLECT" means that the option is not suitable for the collection of grain at the present time of year. The types of grain storage are suitable for the collection of grain at different times of year: Long-term grain stores can be suitable for collection at any time of year. Short-term stores can only be suitable for collection during the Harvest season. Collection direct from site / temporary store can only be suitable for collection during the Harvest season. The Harvest season normally runs from 1st July to 31st October each year. What happens if the collection address or grain store is not an option? The list of grain stores available is taken from the grain store data provided by your Certification Body. This same data is also displayed on the Red Tractor Crops Status Checker. If there are any collection addresses or grain stores that are not available for selection, please contact your Certifier and ask them to update their records accordingly. Once these changes are recorded by the CB, they will then feed through to the Red Tractor database overnight and should be available on the checkers website the next day. What Grain Store data will be shown in the Passport? The Grain Store Name, Storage Type, and GPS Location (Latitude and Longitude) will be displayed on the Passport, based on the data held as provided by your certification body: If you select collection direct from site, then the passport will display "Collection direct from site / temporary store only" under the Grain Store Name: Regards Red Tractor Team

 

[bobk]

Had the attached email from Red Tractor today:

​ Red Tractor Member Mailing​

Dear Red Tractor Crops Member,

We are getting in touch to notify you of changes to the Combinable Crops Passports service. What is changing? Over the past few years, the Red Tractor Crops Certification Bodies have collected explicit storage data for all Crops scheme members. This new data means the Combinable Crops Passports service can now being updated, so that the grain store from which grain is being collected can be specified when registering a new passport. What to expect From the end of the harvest season this year (1st November 2023), you will see a new "Grain Store" drop-down list on the first step of the Create a Passport page: View attachment 1145615 You will be required to select the appropriate option when creating a passport. What options will be in the Grain Store list? Based on the selected Membership and Collection Address, the new drop-down list will contain options for all of the associated Grain Stores, plus one option for "Collection direct from site / temporary store". Changing the selected Membership or Collection Address will refresh the list of Grain Stores accordingly. Each option will be prefixed to indicate whether it is presently suitable for the collection of grain: "CAN COLLECT" means that the option is suitable for the collection of grain at the present time of year. "CANNOT COLLECT" means that the option is not suitable for the collection of grain at the present time of year. View attachment 1145616 The types of grain storage are suitable for the collection of grain at different times of year: Long-term grain stores can be suitable for collection at any time of year. Short-term stores can only be suitable for collection during the Harvest season. Collection direct from site / temporary store can only be suitable for collection during the Harvest season. The Harvest season normally runs from 1st July to 31st October each year. What happens if the collection address or grain store is not an option? The list of grain stores available is taken from the grain store data provided by your Certification Body. This same data is also displayed on the Red Tractor Crops Status Checker. If there are any collection addresses or grain stores that are not available for selection, please contact your Certifier and ask them to update their records accordingly. Once these changes are recorded by the CB, they will then feed through to the Red Tractor database overnight and should be available on the checkers website the next day. What Grain Store data will be shown in the Passport? The Grain Store Name, Storage Type, and GPS Location (Latitude and Longitude) will be displayed on the Passport, based on the data held as provided by your certification body: View attachment 1145613 If you select collection direct from site, then the passport will display "Collection direct from site / temporary store only" under the Grain Store Name: View attachment 1145614 Regards Red Tractor Team

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[SilliamWhale]

Why are they collecting "explicit storage data" ?

 

[bobk]

Why are they collecting "explicit storage data" ?

Ask , @Levy Believer @Richard Orr @Kit Papworth

 

[Tamar]

Why are they collecting "explicit storage data" ?

Probably so your neighbours non FA grain doesn't end up in the lorry !!

 

[SilliamWhale]

Ask , @Levy Believer @Richard Orr @Kit Papworth

The first two wouldn't know. The last one is missing in action

 

[Neddy flanders]

What the hell is this? the chances of RT/Merchant/Haulier/Farmer cross referencing the same location correctly is as likely as the EA dredging a river.

 

[Luke Cropwalker]

They just don't don't f**king learn, do they?

 

[jd6420s]

I think I am missing something here. I just use a blank passport and fill it in by hand and put a sticker on it. Has the system changed now?

 

[jonnieboy]

So an email comes saying all is on hold till the review then this follows it
Seems they can’t even communicate in-house
No one else stands a chance

 

[Neddy flanders]

I think I am missing something here. I just use a blank passport and fill it in by hand and put a sticker on it. Has the system changed now?

so does everyone. now we will need, to log on, pass words. drop down menus, printers and wifi to work.......
pretty soon every grain will need two eartags.....

 

[Hampton]

Electric passports are pointless and we don’t want them

 

[ollie989898]

Why would anyone want to volunteer this information? It's an obvious security risk and may well be commercially sensitive information. It's like mass balance. Don't supply this information, it's not their business.

 

[Hesstondriver]

If you say one thing on your passport & load from another, who is going to dob you in ? The lorry driver? He’s just interested in Ho quick he can get loaded and then tipped !

 

[robbie]

If you was to write a book about alred tractor you wouldn't be able to make this stuff up!!!!
I have half a dozen passport duplicate books that I got from open-field I will be using them until they're all gone bar one and then I will photo copy it and continue using the photo copy. Sod there electronic passport and sod them.

 

[Wombat]

If you was to write a book about alred tractor you wouldn't be able to make this stuff up!!!!
I have half a dozen passport duplicate books that I got from open-field I will be using them until they're all gone bar one and then I will photo copy it and continue using the photo copy. Sod there electronic passport and sod them.

Exactly they can shove that up their arse, we have to do one for every tractor and trailer load off the combine to central store and that’s a pain making sure you have enough passports and stickers to get through the day. Let alone having to do an online in the middle of the bloody field.

 

[Humble Village Farmer]

Why are they collecting "explicit storage data" ?

To get better control of information and your business.

 

[Goffer]

Wtf !!!!? They need to take there fingers out of there ears and shove em where the sun don't shine . Talk about about a load rubbish nobody gives sh1t about.

 

[B'o'B]

Why would anyone want to volunteer this information? It's an obvious security risk and may well be commercially sensitive information. It's like mass balance. Don't supply this information, it's not their business.

It’s not voluntary!!

 

[melted welly]

To get better control of information and your business.

Christine said in her letter we can refuse to have our information shared. I emailed back asking for the details on how to do that.

no reply.