Reduction in Combinable Crops Output as a Result of SFI

[DrWazzock]

One for combinable crop growers.

 

[Nearly]

Perhaps sfi might be the savour this year after wet winter, but have reduced effect next season.

 

[nonemouse]

It’s going to reduce some crops more than others, think OSR and linseed could be more or less finished locally and probably combinable peas and beans will be reduced. The effect on 1st wheats will be possibly a bigger area ?

 

[Steevo]

It’s going to reduce some crops more than others, think OSR and linseed could be more or less finished locally and probably combinable peas and beans will be reduced. The effect on 1st wheats will be possibly a bigger area ?

I think this will be a common approach.

Reductions will hit break crops more than others.

 

[fudge]

I am reluctant to speculate on how others might best use their resources. But on the face of it there is no reason to persist with combinable break crops. Personally I think cereal production won’t fall by much since “farmers will be farmers”.
In the longer term, the export of livestock production will greatly reduce uk arable output. This will have a greater effect than SFI options.

 

[farmbrew]

My production will be 50% less but no sfi involved, just going to fallow it...rightly or wrongly!

 

[DrWazzock]

It’s going to reduce some crops more than others, think OSR and linseed could be more or less finished locally and probably combinable peas and beans will be reduced. The effect on 1st wheats will be possibly a bigger area ?

Yes, there’s a lot more to it than this poll can extract, including crop type reduced and farm size.

 

[DrWazzock]

I’m reducing my combinable crops by 50%. Some of that will be OSR and beans so cereal output won’t drop much. That arable area will go into schemes of the non grassland type. The temporary grass and sheep numbers won’t change but herbal leys will gradually be introduced. We are small though. So on the one hand we won’t make much difference but on the other it’s tempting to reduce arable combinables to zero as what’s left now is hardly worth bothering with (50 acres of cereals).
But I’ve come round to the idea of using SFI breaks etc, rebuilding tired soils and reducing costs and risks.
Edited to add going to spring instead of winter barley so I can do an overwinter cover and no insecticide payment will reduce cereal tonneage on top of the modest reduction in cereal area drilled.

 

[DrWazzock]

Perhaps sfi might be the savour this year after wet winter, but have reduced effect next season.

Will people modify the three yearly agreement annually or just leave it? I suppose a lot depends. I intend to apply this august and leave areas fixed for three years. I’m not so influenced by the ups and downs of weather or even markets. It’s more a consideration of poor soils never really averaging great yields.

 

[David.]

Cereals will be maintained on 40% reduced, area for other reasons outside my control. But kit is all paid for, remaining land is better land and mostly owned, still enjoy it, neighbours still need straw, etc.
Will try to engage with sfi on low input permanent grassland.

 

[Zippy768]

About 45% not to be cropped in harvest 2025.
Around a 35% is a sfi "beeakcrop".
5% still in CS
5% put down to Herbal Lays.
Couple of wet acres here and there permanently taken out.

Will be a quick harvest that year.
No new Sprayer for a while now

 

[Fish]

OSR will be the big loser, in fact I would say, in some areas, it will disappear entirely.
Some break crop add up to more than the sum of their parts, but, osr is history.

 

[David.]

Can't see why anyone would gamble on spring beans.

 

[bobk]

When is the new date for applications ? I'm shoving some more in

 

[DrWazzock]

When is the new date for applications ? I'm shoving some more in

I thought you could start a new agreement any time as long as you start the action within 12 months of acceptance of the agreement. I think you can have multiple agreements with different start dates, but best ask an expert.

 

[bobk]

I thought you could start a new agreement any time as long as you start the action within 12 months of acceptance of the agreement. I think you can have multiple agreements with different start dates, but best ask an expert.

Already got one going

 

[DrWazzock]

Already got one going

I think you can start another one. Just give it a different name. Not 100% sure about that but that’s what I’d heard. Your existing agreement will continue.

 

[bobk]

I think you can start another one. Just give it a different name. Not 100% sure about that but that’s what I’d heard. Your existing agreement will continue.

I'll wait until August to get it in the rotation better , not that I have a rotation presently

 

[HAM135]

Unfortunately being north of the border we don't have the options of the English,if I did I would reduce my cereals by 50% without any hesitation,at the moment the chance of making a profit on them is looking slim at best.

 

[glasshouse]

How long till the sfi bank account runs dry