Rewilding horse pastures?

[Bury the Trash]

I have, but didn't want to upset @Clive as I drive past his most days.

got n e pics ?

 

[Universe]

There's a discussion on the point here:

FT Factcheck: Do we use more land for golf courses than we do for homes?

www.ft.com

Apparently the figure was arrived at by a housing consultant using some back of an envelope calculations. The consensus of the article is that 2% was pushing it, but that a quite surprising amount of land is indeed taken over by golf courses and gold related activities.

I think that you are correct with the golf course point of view, though obviously it is a pointless view as they must be of the chosen types, they can run on red diesel.... So there will be no rewilding necessary there sir.

 

[toquark]

Isn’t all the carbon in horses locked up though in the soil, as they’re all buried as pets in corner of said pony paddock

One of my fields had ponies on it for years, when we bought it and eventually got the ph up enough to make a reseed worthwhile, the chap ploughing it hanked up an old horse skull, buried a full 6” down.

He asked me what he wanted me to do, I told him to keep on ploughing. It’s quite a decent field now.

 

[Wilksy]

On a slight tangent, has anyone ever managed to get grazing on a golf course? There's a whopper I drive past near us, looks prime for some Belties or similar on all that rough stuff. Or is that part of the golf pitch?

We have a golf course on the Beverley Westwood, it’s a large area of common land grazed by cattle all summer, the greens have little fences round them, the whole place is wick with dog walkers also

 

[Wilksy]

!!!!

 

[Kevtherev]

A better idea would be to rewild the cities putting them back to green pleasant woodland and meadows.

 

[Robt]

Yes but rewinding all those horse paddocks would remove the one gold nugget in a sea of stones. The one jodhpurs lady that is worth watching…..

 

[Spencer]

A better idea would be to rewild the cities putting them back to green pleasant woodland and meadows.

Now there’s an idea....

 

[DaveGrohl]

We have a vegetarian couple who come for milk. They remind us they are vegetarian at any and every possible opportunity. They spent ages telling me about a rewilding project they had read about in the paper, how fantastic it was and how they would love the countryside around here to be completely rewilded. They asked if I'd consider doing it here, so I asked if they would consider changing their diet from vegetarian to eating mainly meat. They didn't understand so I pointed out that the only food to be produced on these rewilded farms is meat. You don't see any carrot fields being rewilded. If that's the system they wanted then that's the system they would have to support. They've never mentioned it again.

Tell you what @Tim G , if you stood for NFU president I’d have to seriously consider becoming a member again. Brilliant. You deserve a wider audience.

 

[DaveGrohl]

How about golf courses? Apparently 2% of the UK's land is covered in golf courses (this figure is subject to a considerable amount of debate) so how come there's no demands for them to be rewilded too?

Because the people who would be furious/ha ratio is a very large number whereas for farmers it’s tiny. Look no further than the simple maths.

You try and close a single golf club down and you’re already taking on a large number of people for one golf course.

 

[DaveGrohl]

According to Surrey County Council each pony produces 9 tonnes of muck per year, so up to 9 million tonnes of manure - valuable resource when fertiliser is through the roof!

Yes, but what about the calories they’re eating? They're extremely valuable to the vegans.

 

[DaveGrohl]

There's a discussion on the point here:

FT Factcheck: Do we use more land for golf courses than we do for homes?

www.ft.com

Apparently the figure was arrived at by a housing consultant using some back of an envelope calculations. The consensus of the article is that 2% was pushing it, but that a quite surprising amount of land is indeed taken over by golf courses and gold related activities.

Google tells me 111 acres is the average UK course size. x the 2500 someone posted earlier = 277,500 acres.

I used a recycled envelope for the purposes of this calculation. Other envelopes are available.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Why is this never discussed? Why is it always farming land that has to be re-wilded?

Is it because a lot of the people who support re-wilding also like horse riding. Surely a hobby shouldn't carry more weight than feeding a nation?

Does the fact that they don't claim finance have any bearing , I could have gone wild 20 years ago , taken the payments and turned the farm into a wild jungle, I chose not to ,no one was holding a gun to my head , I'm a bit out of it now but are their pistols now loaded and ready

 

[Fruitloop]

We have a vegetarian couple who come for milk. They remind us they are vegetarian at any and every possible opportunity. They spent ages telling me about a rewilding project they had read about in the paper, how fantastic it was and how they would love the countryside around here to be completely rewilded. They asked if I'd consider doing it here, so I asked if they would consider changing their diet from vegetarian to eating mainly meat. They didn't understand so I pointed out that the only food to be produced on these rewilded farms is meat. You don't see any carrot fields being rewilded. If that's the system they wanted then that's the system they would have to support. They've never mentioned it again.

How do you find out if there is a vegetarian / vegan in the room? Don't flap. They will tell you within the first 5 seconds of conversation

 

[Tim G]

Tell you what @Tim G , if you stood for NFU president I’d have to seriously consider becoming a member again. Brilliant. You deserve a wider audience.

Steady on! If I were to stand I'd have to be a member too...

 

[Fruitloop]

Why is this never discussed? Why is it always farming land that has to be re-wilded?

Is it because a lot of the people who support re-wilding also like horse riding. Surely a hobby shouldn't carry more weight than feeding a nation?

If you want something to boil your eyeballs with, it looks like Monbiot is on the go again...

Regenesis COUNTRY SQUIRE MAGAZINE

BY QUENTIN PIGG Those familiar with George Monbiot’s journalism – to use the word in its loosest and most absurd sense – will know of his strange, almost pathological obsession with farmers. He wri…

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[Ffermer Bach]

 

[Bogweevil]

Plus their Methane contribution to climate change?

Ruminants alas are the major in methane produces in the animal world.

 

[Bogweevil]

Thats 8tons of rugs,haynets, rubber matting,grooming kit and plastic. Then 1 ton of manure.

Evidence?

 

[Still Farming]

Ruminants alas are the major in methane produces in the animal world.

Every living thing excreat or exhales something.