Round baling silage cost

[Skintagain]

Krone must've improved a lot because they used to make an awful bale. Are they still as noisy? There was only one in this area, it replaced a Claas 46 and the Claas made a better bale.
I've never found the bale chamber to be the limiting factor on the McHale, the pick up and the chopper have always been.

Them old bags of shite you are talking about must be 20 years old. Yes they are still noisy but they will bale anything. New balers are improving all the time I wonder where we will be in 20 years

 

[Hilti]

Damp is wet that's not necessary density.

Baling haylage this week could lift 3, does that mean they aren't dense?

Didn't think you could compress water .....

 

[Skintagain]

If you are baling stemmy old crap no baler can get as much in it it won’t bend and crush

 

[collie]

Demod a krone variable in hay but the wind got up quite strong,had to bale one way as the net wouldn’t go into the bale

 

[Party Pete]

Krone must've improved a lot because they used to make an awful bale. Are they still as noisy? There was only one in this area, it replaced a Claas 46 and the Claas made a better bale.
I've never found the bale chamber to be the limiting factor on the McHale, the pick up and the chopper have always been.

I remember the police turning up here at 11pm one night as the krone baler was waking up the neighbours

 

[ollie989898]

Can someone explain it to me, in silage is a roller baler better than a belt or is chain + slat the kiddie?

I remember a customer of mine explaining that he had just replaced his round baler for a new one. Although he had been baling for people for a number of years, he genuinely had come to wish he had not ever started, 'all seemed like a good idea at the time' but several years later he had realised that catchy weather + baler + mobile phone were a hideous combination to have in your life.

 

[Sharpy]

Can someone explain it to me, in silage is a roller baler better than a belt or is chain + slat the kiddie?

I remember a customer of mine explaining that he had just replaced his round baler for a new one. Although he had been baling for people for a number of years, he genuinely had come to wish he had not ever started, 'all seemed like a good idea at the time' but several years later he had realised that catchy weather + baler + mobile phone were a hideous combination to have in your life.

For silage roller balers are the toughest and most reliable both in terms of actually managing to take in crop without it getting in the wrong place and ruining something and mechanically.
For hay and straw belt balers are king for output and power consumption.
Chain and slat are somewhere in between.

 

[ollie989898]

For silage roller balers are the toughest and most reliable both in terms of actually managing to take in crop without it getting in the wrong place and ruining something and mechanically.
For hay and straw belt balers are king for output and power consumption.
Chain and slat are somewhere in between.

Thank you for taking the time to explain.

 

[DrDunc]

Can someone explain it to me, in silage is a roller baler better than a belt or is chain + slat the kiddie?

I remember a customer of mine explaining that he had just replaced his round baler for a new one. Although he had been baling for people for a number of years, he genuinely had come to wish he had not ever started, 'all seemed like a good idea at the time' but several years later he had realised that catchy weather + baler + mobile phone were a hideous combination to have in your life.

Chain and slat (or belt and slat in the Krone comprima) is the Jack of all trades

Roller struggles in very dry brittle straw, belt struggles in short wet grass. Belt and slat makes a bale from anything you can drive over, be it grass sludge to axial flow generated dust

 

[Chonk]

Unless my eyesight is buggered, it says 260 bales per roll in the post that you're questioning, which is 3 turns per bale. Silage might not need quite as much as that, but haylage is better with a bit extra, and straw will need that and more if it's a soft centre baler

Regardless, the net has been applied, bales made, job done. The question is not how pedantic, or unobservant can anything be, but how much to charge based on actual costs

Edit
I bought my wrap for this year at £54 a roll. It was last year's stock. 30 per roll means 4 layers per bale

I get 26 bales per roll applying 5 layers at 1.35m diameter

Reading through this thread on a wet March morning wondering how you apply 5 layers of wrap on a bale ?? Uiu must have 4 layers on half the bale and 6 layers on the other half die to a 50% overlap … just wondering

 

[wdah/him]

Kuhn has 3d wrap as an option on the combi. Great job

 

[DrDunc]

Reading through this thread on a wet March morning wondering how you apply 5 layers of wrap on a bale ?? Uiu must have 4 layers on half the bale and 6 layers on the other half die to a 50% overlap … just wondering

For 5 layer you use one of these

Fewer turns and speeds up the belt adjusting the overlap to compensate

Won't be cutting the same corners next year though - too many bales with the odd spot of surface mould

Everything will be "3D" wrapped. Only get 21 bales per roll, and its slower, but properly tight bales. No air left under wrap whatsoever, and no spoilage at all.

 

[Chonk]

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For 5 layer you use one of these

Fewer turns and speeds up the belt adjusting the overlap to compensate

Won't be cutting the same corners next year though - too many bales with the odd spot of surface mould

Everything will be "3D" wrapped. Only get 21 bales per roll, and its slower, but properly tight bales. No air left under wrap whatsoever, and no spoilage at all.

You live and learn … I never knew anyone would wrap without the 50% overlap recommended by wrap manufacturers or that there was a machine to do it proper 6 layers of double overlapped or 4 layers with film on film is the way. Silage is worth too much to spoil

 

[DrDunc]

You live and learn … I never knew anyone would wrap without the 50% overlap recommended by wrap manufacturers or that there was a machine to do it proper 6 layers of double overlapped or 4 layers with film on film is the way. Silage is worth too much to spoil

Aye the Kuhn 3D is like 4 layers with film on film, but better

Rolls on film like "film in chamber" , but corners also get covered, before it spins on the 4 layers

We'll see next winter

 

[farmer dave136]

Just look on Facebook, and buy the finished product for £12 bale........

You can but it’s like a lucky dip what’s inside lol

 

[farmer dave136]

Well all I'm gonna say is we used to make everything in bales then 2 yrs ago we put a silage pit in....... Wat can I say THE BEST THING WE'VE EVER DONE...... round bale silage is the work of the devil - expensive, seriously time consuming, clocking hrs on your tack lugging the bloody things, scuffing tyres unloading at the stack etc etc..... I could honestly say I'd give up farming before going back to round bale silage even with concrete & steel at the price it is I wouldn't hesitate to do it again even if it meant extending the o/d.....

Do you not scuff tyres leading grass to a clamp I bet you do

 

[michael N123]

That's cheap. Most around here will pay North of £20 baled and wrapped

Might aswell just buy bales

 

[JP1]

Might aswell just buy bales

Just shows you don't understand what happens around here in terms of availability etc

 

[Wellytrack]

Just shows you don't understand what happens around here in terms of availability etc

Would it be more hay than silage over your way? Don’t think you would have much to bale during the hottest and driest times.