Row Spacing in Grass

[Hfd Cattle]

Is that a Brinicombe molasses feeder ?

No ..but the same as .

 

[NFI]

Thinking of trying them this year. Have heard various reports about them. Another learning curve to master.

 

[Hfd Cattle]

Thinking of trying them this year. Have heard various reports about them. Another learning curve to master.

It's a wyedale feeder and very strong . We use R.D. Chesters for our liquid feed but it's dependant on where you are as to whether they will deliver .
We have feed buckets etc from Brinicombe and very pleased with them .

 

[NFI]

We're in west Somerset so not far from Crediton. I use Brinicombe tupping tubs for flushing which works a treat. Just thinking about liquid molasses instead of MVF buckets. The ewes seem to demolish them in no time. Also trying to improve pastures and therefore silage, that's how I found this thread. Used the plough and einboch this year and looks good. But I'm too scared to try the DD approach for reseed. Some of these fields haven't been touched for 50 years plus.

 

[exmoor dave]

We're in west Somerset so not far from Crediton. I use Brinicombe tupping tubs for flushing which works a treat. Just thinking about liquid molasses instead of MVF buckets. The ewes seem to demolish them in no time. Also trying to improve pastures and therefore silage, that's how I found this thread. Used the plough and einboch this year and looks good. But I'm too scared to try the DD approach for reseed. Some of these fields haven't been touched for 50 years plus.

Where abouts in west somerset?


We've had brassicas direct drilled in to old pastures and its worked fairly well,
Then rotovated for grass after the brassicas have been eaten.

Don't think it will really work going straight from old grass to new grass with direct drill.
But the rotovator machine would be ok,
We're near minehead and the rotovator contractor is at porlock if that's any help

 

[Derrick Hughes]

We're in west Somerset so not far from Crediton. I use Brinicombe tupping tubs for flushing which works a treat. Just thinking about liquid molasses instead of MVF buckets. The ewes seem to demolish them in no time. Also trying to improve pastures and therefore silage, that's how I found this thread. Used the plough and einboch this year and looks good. But I'm too scared to try the DD approach for reseed. Some of these fields haven't been touched for 50 years plus.

Can your fields be mown ,
I reseed 100 acres year , most going direct into pasture , also help two big contractors running direct drills , touch wood not had a fail yet, but you will get fails whatever system ,

 

[NFI]

Wiveliscombe.
Haven't seen a rotavator for a while. Do you DD brassicas for winter feed or summer and thus Spring or Autumn grass reseed.

 

[NFI]

Ah the living legend.
Hi Derrick. I've read quite a few of your posts.
Yes I can mow them. The really steep stuff I'm quite happy to rewild. So I take it you burn off the old ley with a glyphosate, cut, then DD with a Moore or equivalent.
Sounds a little too easy.

 

[exmoor dave]

Wiveliscombe.
Haven't seen a rotavator for a while. Do you DD brassicas for winter feed or summer and thus Spring or Autumn grass reseed.

Both this year, we've got turnips/ kale for winter use then reseed next spring (or maybe crop again to reseed next autumn)

Also got stubble turnips that we're drilled in late june, with the intention of reseeding in late September/ early October...... but it turned into a rather big crop so we're still grazing it now, so will have to wait for a spring reseed now.
Next time we'll drill much earlier so it's definitely eaten off in time, also won't grow anything with a bulb as that's where there's so much crop to be eaten.

 

[Poorbuthappy]

Both this year, we've got turnips/ kale for winter use then reseed next spring (or maybe crop again to reseed next autumn)

Also got stubble turnips that we're drilled in late june, with the intention of reseeding in late September/ early October...... but it turned into a rather big crop so we're still grazing it now, so will have to wait for a spring reseed now.
Next time we'll drill much earlier so it's definitely eaten off in time, also won't grow anything with a bulb as that's where there's so much crop to be eaten.

That rotavator seeder still going then?
F in L didn't keep his.
He's running a close spaced Moore as well as the Aitchison now. Reckons giving good results.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Ah the living legend.
Hi Derrick. I've read quite a few of your posts.
Yes I can mow them. The really steep stuff I'm quite happy to rewild. So I take it you burn off the old ley with a glyphosate, cut, then DD with a Moore or equivalent.
Sounds a little too easy.

Its not easy , if you want easy then best plough , but if you follow the rules in can be easy and a lot cheaper
As for me I research and try things until I find answers, as for brassicas , I've seen a lot more fails with those than grass
The reason I asked was if you can mow as letting the grass grow on for a cut is the best way I've found of opening the Sward up , no matter if you spray before or after , but spraying before is easier and quicker but not as effective for killing docks

 

[exmoor dave]

That rotavator seeder still going then?
F in L didn't keep his.
He's running a close spaced Moore as well as the Aitchison now. Reckons giving good results.

Yep, changed hands but still very local.

We had a chicory mix put in with it followed winter brassica and it came up very nice.

What I like about it is that it blows the seed on like its broadcast so nice coverage of plants

 

[Bury the Trash]

Hmm, They dont leave it very level.

Trouble was is with a Rotavator is it leaves a pan which when its used in shallow work dont allow brassicas to grow their very best, as they like relativly loose soil quite deep actually.
Yes a rotavator can be used deep but the soil is pulverised to a poorly structured dust in the process.

Much us made about is made about so called plough pan but 6 to 8 inches is fine on most soils to help these plants grow big and dark green , ( with plenty of nitrogen as well dont forget)

Thats Nothing to do with row spacing in grass though , sorry

 

[Bury the Trash]

Been farming 50 years and kept a lot of stock and none ever ate docks
I may spray a field twice in 5 years ,best you go and do your preaching to an arable farmer
The 60 acres I've just reseeded is not far off flooded tonight will all this rain , last year it was January before I could get stock on to graze anything

haven't you seen sheep eat docks/keep them down and stop them from going to seed,because they do common knowledge that is, its only then when that field is laid up for conservation that it again becomes a problem with seeding.

i forget all this stuff but later sowing grass seed,add in some corn ie bit of barley to protect the grass seedlings and the soil in the early stages of establishment
on a slope work across it as well don't leave your wheel marks up an down as that's bad practice