RSPCA at it again

[Scholsey]

Bovine TB

www.rspcaassured.org.uk

 

[Cattle1998]

Hey would you be able to fill in my survey on this topic?

 

[jerseycowsman]

Tossers, obsessed with the badger, what about the welfare of cattle, of hedgehogs, of ground nesting birds?
They are playing up to the hype of packham et al to garner support, they are not interested in the welfare of cattle or any wildlife but the bloody badger!

 

[frederick]

Bovine TB

www.rspcaassured.org.uk

It is just a nonsense when assurance schemes make you lie.

Why would you tell them if you were in a cull. They cant prove it one way or another.

 

[Scholsey]

Is it just M and S direct suppliers who have to bow to rspca?

 

[Happy hillbily]

Is it just M and S direct suppliers who have to bow to rspca?

I was just going to ask, why anyone would want to be rspca assured ? Is it piggy backed onto others ?

 

[Scholsey]

I was just going to ask, why anyone would want to be rspca assured ? Is it piggy backed onto others ?

Is it me or is this highly insulting to our industry, ‘in many cases........’

And encouraging people to ‘lobby’ their supermarket to get them to stock rspca assured milk so presumably they can charge for the inspection and make more money, interesting tactics from a ‘charity’.

 

[Water Wheel]

From the RSPCA link above
"Historically, the RSPCA has supported scientific investigations and trials designed to identify the association between badgers and bovine TB infections"

The RSPCA must have a huge number of bT.B. test results on badgers from their rescue centers, spread across the whole country'.
It would be very interesting to see these results maped for the whole country.

"The RSPCA is currently looking at some of the new tests which are available - some of which have not yet been validated and access to them is tightly controlled. These include the Actiphage, Enferplex, ELISA and PCR tests. "

It is hoped they are looking and using these tests on rescue/ release badger in their care, setting an example for their Assurance scheme members.

." We are really keen to hear from any RSPCA Assured members who would be willing to take part in further trials using these other tests",

 

[Farm buy]

Tossers, obsessed with the badger, what about the welfare of cattle, of hedgehogs, of ground nesting birds?
They are playing up to the hype of packham et al to garner support, they are not interested in the welfare of cattle or any wildlife but the bloody badger!

Badger has been controlled inRep of Ireland for years and tb numbers have been very acceptable

 

[Chips]

Tossers, obsessed with the badger, what about the welfare of cattle, of hedgehogs, of ground nesting birds?
They are playing up to the hype of packham et al to garner support, they are not interested in the welfare of cattle or any wildlife but the bloody badger!

Truth is they are not even obsessed with the badgers , the badger is the very animal that suffers the most from the decades of lack of action against TB , our badgers are now suffering a slow prolonged painful death from a disease that should never of come within a 150 miles of them, as so in time will the badgers 150 miles north of here if the inaction continues . The only thing they are obsessed with is themselves !

 

[som farmer]

the whole thing about farm assurance, red tractor or rspca, is that animal welfare is now not the guiding reason for it, it has evolved into an industry, which requires ever more 'conditions' to keep people employed. What difference is it going to make to an animal's health, having a little hole in a door, or, not having a 'no smoking' sign, in the parlour, on a farm where nobody smokes ? Our last visit, I was informed, that I was using the 'wrong' recording on NVZ records, although I was using rb209, and a programme, it wasn't right. I challenged this, and he got out his calculator, and redid the figures, rt way.... they were as near as, the same end figure. The whole visit was fine, apart from a couple of minor's. But, as farmers, we should be welcoming them onto our farms, to show off our produce, not dreading the arrival.

 

[Farm buy]

the whole thing about farm assurance, red tractor or rspca, is that animal welfare is now not the guiding reason for it, it has evolved into an industry, which requires ever more 'conditions' to keep people employed. What difference is it going to make to an animal's health, having a little hole in a door, or, not having a 'no smoking' sign, in the parlour, on a farm where nobody smokes ? Our last visit, I was informed, that I was using the 'wrong' recording on NVZ records, although I was using rb209, and a programme, it wasn't right. I challenged this, and he got out his calculator, and redid the figures, rt way.... they were as near as, the same end figure. The whole visit was fine, apart from a couple of minor's. But, as farmers, we should be welcoming them onto our farms, to show off our produce, not dreading the arrival.

You are so correct in what you say.There is a huge industry created on the backs of farmers that we have no control on ,Alot of the rules are made to give a person to hit us with something and are irrevelant in the production process..Daily our food is advertised as the cheapest or it down or it a bargin or 2 for one .Its a high quality product and should sell like that. Retailers will find the same product in some distant country , import it and expect us to match it in price. That is simply wrong.

 

[som farmer]

You are so correct in what you say.There is a huge industry created on the backs of farmers that we have no control on ,Alot of the rules are made to give a person to hit us with something and are irrevelant in the production process..Daily our food is advertised as the cheapest or it down or it a bargin or 2 for one .Its a high quality product and should sell like that. Retailers will find the same product in some distant country , import it and expect us to match it in price. That is simply wrong.

No gov is going to let food prices rise, if it can find a way to keep them down.
At ag shows, if anyone passes comment about all the super, shiny kit, my response is 'we are the silly buggers, that buy the kit, that keeps all the reps in a job'. It would be a real shock, if the real figure, of how many we keep in employment, through our industry, yet we are treated like second class idiots by a lot of folk.
No-one looks at the 'bigger picture', that is, we produce the food that feeds them.

 

[Farm buy]

No gov is going to let food prices rise, if it can find a way to keep them down.
At ag shows, if anyone passes comment about all the super, shiny kit, my response is 'we are the silly buggers, that buy the kit, that keeps all the reps in a job'. It would be a real shock, if the real figure, of how many we keep in employment, through our industry, yet we are treated like second class idiots by a lot of folk.
No-one looks at the 'bigger picture', that is, we produce the food that feeds them.

Your on the ball, just saw an ad from Tesco guaranteeing that the price wont rise. Something more positive has to be done on our belhalf. Food production cannot be started and stopped at the whim of supermarkets.

 

[applejack]

You are correct in everything you say @som farmer but the reality I'm afraid is different ,supermarkets have huge control over the retail market especially the food sector. When it comes to the crunch they don't care about their suppliers and despite their platitudes they don't really care that much about their customers either.
What ultimately matters to them is that someone might go into one of their competitors instead of through their doors to spend that hard earned cash.