RSPCA badger cull / bTB consultation

JP1

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Dairy cows © RSPCA photolibrary

Bovine tuberculosis
What is Bovine TB?
Bovine Tuberculosis (bTB) is an infectious disease of cattle. It's caused by the bacterium Mycobacterium bovis (M. bovis) which can also infect and cause disease in many other mammals including badgers.
It's a devastating disease, and causes grief to so many, particularly within the farming community. Some believe that badgers play a large part in the spread of bovine TB amongst cattle. As a result, large numbers of badgers have died in culling - especially in the past 5 years.
Bovine TB in cattle
We don't support the badger cull and believe that more can be done to tackle the disease in cattle. We believe there are solutions that will benefit farmers, cattle and badgers.
We're pleased with the conclusion of the Godfray review published last year, stating that the focus of policy on the badger had taken attention away from how to better manage the disease in cattle.
We've produced a report - Bovine TB: not everything is black and white (PDF 5.62MB) - part in response to Godfray, but partly on our own initiative. The report explains why we're against the badger cull and proposes a number of recommendations on how to improve the situation with regards to cattle and farmers. After all, this is a disease of cattle.
Join our bovine TB consultation
We'd like to receive your views on our proposals and so we've produced a bovine TB consultation document (PDF 168KB). This gives a brief summary of our proposals, but the details behind them can be found in our bovine TB report.
  1. Review our Bovine TB consultation document (PDF 168KB) and the Bovine TB: not everything is black and white (PDF 5.62MB) report
  2. Complete the consultation survey online.
The consultation is open from 17 September to 1 November.
Take the consultation survey
We'll review the responses and report on the findings by the end of the year.
We're asking for farmers to input on our proposals
We'd like to work with farmers in developing management strategies for bovine TB on their farms, using some of the ideas discussed in our proposals.
If you would like to talk to us more about this, please:
  • email [email protected]
  • write to Bovine TB Team, Science Group RSPCA, Wilberforce Way, Southwater, West Sussex, RH13 9RS.

I cannot attach the PDF documents but you can click the link and read them
 

JP1

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RSPCA are a joke
Yes. And they preach whilst one of the greatest example of animal welfare issues surrounds pet obesity

I'd be interested in @matthew 's thoughts. The questionnaire works on the assumptive questioning along the lines of "we're asking you because you've failed thus far" and "how long have you been beating your wife"
 

JP1

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Livestock Farmer
No point in my filling it in, when their blumph states unequivocally that ‘they don’t support culling badgers and more can be done to control the disease in cattle.’
Minds already made up?
Not only their mind but the questions are phrased so it's the cattle industry's fault for not acting

I did complete it

I told them I want healthy badgers more than anyone

I told them the voluntary tagging / testing / movement licensing of camelids is a joke

I told them I blame Krebs and Benn for making the spread of bTB far worse

I asked them how other countries eradicated BTB

I told them the Government out bidding of TB testing has meant my integration of bTB health controls as part of holistic herd health planning is impossible
 

PaulNix

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Filled it in yesterday and in every chance commented on how it was such a loaded questionnaire it was impossible to answer in a way it could be construed to be in support in something they've already made their mind up on.
Seems they are going to demand the companies doing the cull stop to do other things which they didn't setup to do and the people who failed so far in controlling TB take over the cull also it was obvious what their agenda is, as there was no comment box on the vacination section is doesn't really set out to help with TB but to stop the cull in a meaningful way.
Fill it in just in a way to make sure you don't by accident agree with them as they will no doubt pick out the answers which suit them and discard the bits which would endanger their donations.
Also on the next page after submit there was a link on a page for som nonsense with my email address already filled in which I'd rather they didn't have so make sure not to press anything there ?
 

Bramble

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Filled it in.

Told them to look back a generation for TB control answers.

Look at other countries, TB control isn’t that difficult

Suggested that they should just pursue a policy of removal of all cattle from the UK to improve the TB situation

Pointless questionnaire really but something to do while waiting for KJT in the athletics!!
 
The penguin with the rocket launcher needs to get those badger with TB photos PM blown up and posted so these cretins realise badgers die from TB and they stand to benefit from the cull as much as the UK cattle herd.
 
The penguin with the rocket launcher needs to get those badger with TB photos PM blown up and posted so these cretins realise badgers die from TB and they stand to benefit from the cull as much as the UK cattle herd.

I’ll ‘ave ewe no, I’m no penguin young Ollie. ?
Just a bird with a big bazooka.

Warning: not to be viewed when eating custard.

 
I’ll ‘ave ewe no, I’m no penguin young Ollie. ?
Just a bird with a big bazooka.

Warning: not to be viewed when eating custard.



I meant send it to the folks at the RSPCA. Deer are culled for their own benefit, why not badgers? They must suffer horribly with the disease. Culling badgers would actually result in a far healthier badger population and less cost to the tax payer and industry in general, surely? Or is that too simplistic.
 
Older thread I know ,but having had conversations with a Romanian vet , he told us how his country had a few cases of TB , but not a lot , and they had bears , wolves and wild oar etc .
So they didnt have a problem at all ,as such.
Yet in this country, he said - we treat them like royalty and the TB situation spirals out of all control
 

som farmer

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we had chap from EA Monday, told us he hadn't seen a hedgehog, since he moved from London to the country, I told him, truthfully, I have seen more hhogs this year, than for the last 20, also seen 2 broods of partridges, plus more pheasant broods and ducklings, he then asked why, when I said we were in a b cull zone, and that was why, he just went completely blank, with his mouth open. I really don't think that it had ever even occurred to him, that badgers did such things, badger' in wind in the willows, 'sentiment, whether it did any good or not, no idea, but it certainly shocked him.
 

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