RSPCA says NZ has better farm animal welfare than UK

kiwi pom

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canterbury NZ
I'm not sure there's that much difference between the two. It will come down to individual farmers more than anything.
Good and bad stock people in both countries.

There was a change in standards for laying hens at the start of the year, not sure what it was but some farms shut down and eggs were very hard to find for a few months.
 
No offence to our southern cousins but when I worked in NZ some of the dairy farm youngstock welfare wouldn’t stand up to scrutiny in the UK .
Was 25 years ago though 🙈
About then ,a friend of mine was out there and cull ewe prices were in the floor so they were throwing them off a cliff, straight out of the trailer. Doubt if it was a red tractor towing it
 

borderterribles

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Livestock Farmer
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South Shropshire
About then ,a friend of mine was out there and cull ewe prices were in the floor so they were throwing them off a cliff, straight out of the trailer. Doubt if it was a red tractor towing it
Around the same time, a friend's Missus went out there to milk for someone. He'd induced a bunch of cows and heifers ,then went away for a few days leaving her with a ball pein hammer to euthanase any calves that were born alive . These stories may justifiably be the reason that UK farmers don't have a very high opinion of NZ farm animal welfare standards.
 

Macsky

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Livestock Farmer
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Highland
Around the same time, a friend's Missus went out there to milk for someone. He'd induced a bunch of cows and heifers ,then went away for a few days leaving her with a ball pein hammer to euthanase any calves that were born alive . These stories may justifiably be the reason that UK farmers don't have a very high opinion of NZ farm animal welfare standards.
A guy locally went out there when he was younger, went out with the farmer on a ‘lambing’ round, stopped by a ewe that was struggling, he went to jump out of the pickup to give her a hand but before he got near her the farmer had put a bullet in her.

I fully understand the long term health and welfare benefits of a strict culling regime, but there are ways and means, and i really struggle to see the good in that type of treatment.
 

borderterribles

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Livestock Farmer
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South Shropshire
A guy locally went out there when he was younger, went out with the farmer on a ‘lambing’ round, stopped by a ewe that was struggling, he went to jump out of the pickup to give her a hand but before he got near her the farmer had put a bullet in her.

I fully understand the long term health and welfare benefits of a strict culling regime, but there are ways and means, and i really struggle to see the good in that type of treatment.
Yes,,I understand that a NZ assisted lambing is one where the farmer shoots the ewe without leaving his truck.:(
 

kiwi pom

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Location
canterbury NZ
Around the same time, a friend's Missus went out there to milk for someone. He'd induced a bunch of cows and heifers ,then went away for a few days leaving her with a ball pein hammer to euthanase any calves that were born alive . These stories may justifiably be the reason that UK farmers don't have a very high opinion of NZ farm animal welfare standards.
Cows aren't induced now, standards have moved on, just as they hopefully have in the UK.
As ever there are individual farmers who are not fit to keep stock, that is true everywhere not just here.
No offence to our southern cousins but when I worked in NZ some of the dairy farm youngstock welfare wouldn’t stand up to scrutiny in the UK .
Was 25 years ago though 🙈
A lot has changed in that time.
Again some farmers don't know how to keep stock.
Have a look on the Evolution farms thread in the dairy section to see a UK version of someone who shouldn't farm.

Inspections and punishment for those who can't do the job properly should be stricter in BOTH countries.
 

Tomo23

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Livestock Farmer
A guy locally went out there when he was younger, went out with the farmer on a ‘lambing’ round, stopped by a ewe that was struggling, he went to jump out of the pickup to give her a hand but before he got near her the farmer had put a bullet in her.

I fully understand the long term health and welfare benefits of a strict culling regime, but there are ways and means, and i really struggle to see the good in that type of treatment.

Lad I know has been talking to a rather large tup breeder this last week. Was telling him he'd been out there and did the same thing.

Doing the rounds and saw a ewe stuck on its back. 'pull up, I'll sort her out'

'oh we don't bother' came the reply. Reckons they drove past 18 ewes cast and didn't help a single one.
 

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