Rumenco, Harper Adams, and the filthy lucre.

[delilah]

Harper are taking significant sums of money (certainly 6 figures, possibly 7) from Defra to research a problem that doesn't exist.
Rumenco are backing this to the hilt - cash possibly, resources certainly - as there will be plenty of money to be made in solving that problem that doesn't exist.
The Harper/Rumenco link is easy to spot, senior management at Harper being ex Rumenco.
There's loads more money - both taxpayers money and your inputs money - being sucked into solving this problem that doesn't exist, with Harper sitting at the heart of it. Innovis certainly, bound to be others.
Following the Countryfile programme, someone said on here that they are going to be boycotting Rumenco.

A discussion needs to be had on this: Should farmers boycott companies and research institutions that are feeding the lie that livestock cause climate change ?

 

[jondear]

Rumenco who !Never heard of them.

 

[Oldmacdonald]

What problem?

 

[delilah]

https://www.harper-adams.ac.uk/news...ata-to-feed-into-29m-low-carbon-sheep-project

 

[yellowbelly]

A discussion needs to be had on this: Should farmers boycott companies and research institutions that are feeding the lie that livestock cause climate change ?

It would be good if we could but I guess it would be very difficult just to know who or what had been 'infiltrated' by those spreading the lie - a bit akin to how 'the baddies' managed to infect the justice system and the police in The Line of Duty drama

In this instance, a lot of hill farmers would 'have to cut off their noses to spite their faces', as I guess Rumenco make more than 95% of feed blocks sold (I'm guessing most sold under other brands are made by Rumenco).

 

[Pieces_of_Eight]

This is one of those cryptic threads that only tells half a story.

What is the problem, what is Rumenco, who is Harper etc etc...??

 

[Pieces_of_Eight]

https://www.harper-adams.ac.uk/news...ata-to-feed-into-29m-low-carbon-sheep-project

Yawn.

No different to the straggly end of the supply chain telling the sharp end to grow low carbon crops.

If there's no premium it won't be happening.

 

[delilah]

If there's no premium it won't be happening.

If you don't use the genetics/feed/management system, the cartel wont take your product.

 

[Pistonbroke]

I'm not up to speed on the science but I read somewhere that if they can reduce the methane,a bigger percentage of the the energy in the food goes into animal performance. A friend went on his yfc exchange to Russia 30 years ago and went to an experimental farm where they had massive sheep housed in labs with tubes coming from the rumen monitoring what was going on and treating the sheep with something accordingly. His russian was zero so he wasn't 100% on the science,but it damn well wasn't to help climate change. Expect a rumenco bucket with some methane reducing wonder bug.

 

[Suffolk Serf]

I think that there was a product that did that years ago (Romensin?). It got banned for some reason about the same time that hormone implants were banned by the EU.

 

[Pistonbroke]

I think that there was a product that did that years ago (Romensin?). It got banned for some reason about the same time that hormone implants were banned by the EU.

Could be a relicensing project

 

[matthew]

This is one of those cryptic threads that only tells half a story.

What is the problem, what is Rumenco, who is Harper etc etc...??

Sky / BBFC / Countryfile etc had the story.

I'm not up to speed on the science but I read somewhere that if they can reduce the methane,a bigger percentage of the the energy in the food goes into animal performance. A friend went on his yfc exchange to Russia 30 years ago and went to an experimental farm where they had massive sheep housed in labs with tubes coming from the rumen monitoring what was going on and treating the sheep with something accordingly. His russian was zero so he wasn't 100% on the science,but it damn well wasn't to help climate change. Expect a rumenco bucket with some methane reducing wonder bug.

What the company (rumenco) was doing was working with laboratories to produce feed additive that reduces ruminant methane output.

In a test tube, this additive, obtained from daffodil bulbs, stopped the rumen bugs stone dead. No bubbles. No methane.

No additive and liquid burbled away, expelling - methane.

Now to a simple soul (lab rat) this sounded a magic bullet for (as Big D says) a problem which doesn't exist. But if you happen to be a cow or a sheep, fork about with its rumen bugs and the rumen is not a happy place to be.

So never mind about C'file's Tom Heap slipping in the 'compulsory' inclusion of such products to save the planet, this mind set could lead to some very unhappy, or very dead ruminants.

For a problem that doesn't exist.

 

[neilo]

Could be a relicensing project

Let's hope so. Monensin was a fantastic product for controlling cocci in lambs. It suppressed the cocci so the lambs didn't suffer gut damage but did develop a natural immunity.

We used to feed it in Rumevite blocks.

 

[Humble Village Farmer]

This sounds like a great idea.

Where did I leave my plane tickets?

 

[Vader]

I'm not up to speed on the science but I read somewhere that if they can reduce the methane,a bigger percentage of the the energy in the food goes into animal performance. A friend went on his yfc exchange to Russia 30 years ago and went to an experimental farm where they had massive sheep housed in labs with tubes coming from the rumen monitoring what was going on and treating the sheep with something accordingly. His russian was zero so he wasn't 100% on the science,but it damn well wasn't to help climate change. Expect a rumenco bucket with some methane reducing wonder bug.

Would evolution not have improved the methane reduction if it was better performance by having less?

 

[Vader]

Yawn.

No different to the straggly end of the supply chain telling the sharp end to grow low carbon crops.

If there's no premium it won't be happening.

Until Gov make it a legal requirement..?

 

[farmerm]

Harper are taking significant sums of money (certainly 6 figures, possibly 7) from Defra to research a problem that doesn't exist.
Rumenco are backing this to the hilt - cash possibly, resources certainly - as there will be plenty of money to be made in solving that problem that doesn't exist.
The Harper/Rumenco link is easy to spot, senior management at Harper being ex Rumenco.
There's loads more money - both taxpayers money and your inputs money - being sucked into solving this problem that doesn't exist, with Harper sitting at the heart of it. Innovis certainly, bound to be others.
Following the Countryfile programme, someone said on here that they are going to be boycotting Rumenco.

A discussion needs to be had on this: Should farmers boycott companies and research institutions that are feeding the lie that livestock cause climate change ?

Add in some clever accounting and R&D tax credits the project will be a great cash cow for all those involved...

 

[Pieces_of_Eight]

Until Gov make it a legal requirement..?

Won't be happening under Rishi's watch.

Keith Stammerer doesn't seem keen on the Ecotards either at the moment.

 

[farmerm]

This is one of those cryptic threads that only tells half a story.

What is the problem, what is Rumenco, who is Harper etc etc...??

If you know not of Rumenco or who Harper is, perhaps this thread is not for you...

 

[CornishTone]

If they want me to take carbon out of the system and lock it up in livestock by feeding this sh1te to my sheepses, they can pay me to do it, and they payment will have to be substantial!