Russian/ukraine war predictions

pellow

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Location
Newquay
It's pretty simple Russia, having been provoked by the west, will now destroy the Ukrainian military. Despite what you are reading in the western mainstream media it is well on it's way to doing that. It will also root out the Nazi militias in the country. Once it has done that it will offer talks that will be dependent on an agreement for a neutral Ukraine that can be verified.

All completely predictable but ignored by the west

The best advice to solve the Russia-Ukraine Conflict was given by John J. Mearsheimer in 2015 which nobody listened to.

"The West is leading Ukraine down the primrose path and the end result is that Ukraine is going to get wrecked."

John J. Mearsheimer is an American political scientist and international relations scholar, who belongs to the realist school of thought. He is the R. Wendell Harrison Distinguished Service Professor at the University of Chicago.


Do you know how many men would be in the Nazi militias? I mean total numbers
 
Location
southwest
Refusal to establish a no fly zone shows that Nato and the "West" has no intention of getting involved beyond imposing sanctions that just feed the Russian belief that the world is against them.

Militarily Russia can crush/destroy Ukraine whenever it wants. ATM they are being very restrained in their actions. BBC's Bowen has just pointed out that the are NOT bombing the sh*t out of Kiev even though they have the capability, also worth noting that we are not seeing scenes of mass casualties in hospitals like we have recently with the conflicts in the Middle East and Yemen.


The sooner Zelensky accepts reality and negotiates the best peace deal he can get better for all concerned-especially the people of Ukraine.


The supreme irony is that Russia is staging a (relatively) low key invasion and being condemned by the US and the UK, while those two Countries gloried in the "shock & awe" strategy of bombing Iraq (military and civilians alike) into submission before invading.
 
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TheTallGuy

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Location
Cambridgeshire
Refusal to establish a no fly zone shows that Nato and the "West" has no intention of getting involved beyond imposing sanctions that just feed the Russian belief that the world is against them.

Militarily Russia can crush/destroy Ukraine whenever it wants. ATM they are being very restrained in their actions. BBC's Bowen has just pointed out that the are NOT bombing the sh*t out of Kiev even though they have the capability, also worth noting that we are not seeing scenes of mass casualties in hospitals like we have recently with the conflicts in the Middle East and Yemen.


The sooner Zelensky accepts reality and negotiates the best peace deal he can get better for all concerned-especially the people of Ukraine.


The supreme irony is that Russia is staging a (relatively) low key invasion and being condemned by the US and the UK, while those two Countries gloried in the "shock & awe" strategy of bombing Iran (military and civilians alike) into submission before invading.
Russia has never been particularly strong in the bombing department, whereas the UK & US have focused heavily in that area along with cruise missiles.

We've not yet attacked Iran, but when the attack was launched in Iraq "shock and awe" was used to make big statement attacks on specific targets rather than the deliberate indiscriminate shelling of civilian areas we are seeing in Ukraine.
 

Hilly

Member
Refusal to establish a no fly zone shows that Nato and the "West" has no intention of getting involved beyond imposing sanctions that just feed the Russian belief that the world is against them.
Militarily Russia can crush/destroy Ukraine whenever it wants. ATM they are being very restrained in their actions. BBC's Bowen has just pointed out that the are NOT bombing the sh*t out of Kiev even though they have the capability, also worth noting that we are not seeing scenes of mass casualties in hospitals like we have recently with the conflicts in the Middle East and Yemen.


The sooner Zelensky accepts reality and negotiates the best peace deal he can get better for all concerned-especially the people of Ukraine.


The supreme irony is that Russia is staging a (relatively) low key invasion and being condemned by the US and the UK, while those two Countries gloried in the "shock & awe" strategy of bombing Iran (military and civilians alike) into submission before invading.
I tend to agree, and those two countries instrumental in war starting, light the fire now they just warming their hands .
 

Surgery

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Location
Oxford
Mate that is stuck in Ukraine sends me what can only be described as a Ukrainian news-propaganda channel messages via WhatsApp , if a fraction of it is to be believed Russians in some areas have run out of fuel and food and could be days to get them going again.

We all know it isn’t going as putin thought it would , I do hope he won’t react like a rat caught in a corner.
 

Hilly

Member
If someone killed half your family would you want to make peace , Putin's kind of peace , think people need to get real ,it's Putin's way or no way , Putin's way will never be ecepptable the the Ukrainian people
They should have thought sbout that when they were provoking him courting the west with nato , they would have been better accepting the 15 billion he offerd , not the best but better than this and he bee dead of d age soon enough and pray for more moderate person , taking him on was suicidal .
 

Henarar

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Somerset
If someone killed half your family would you want to make peace , Putin's kind of peace , think people need to get real ,it's Putin's way or no way , Putin's way will never be ecepptable the the Ukrainian people
I didn't say that they would or should except the peace deal on offer, just that there was one.

as to the first bit of what you put, yes I would if that someone had a gun on me and the other half of my family that were still alive.
 

Derrick Hughes

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Location
Ceredigion
They should have thought sbout that when they were provoking him courting the west with nato , they would have been better accepting the 15 billion he offerd , not the best but better than this and he bee dead of d age soon enough and pray for more moderate person , taking him on was suicidal .
Why harp on about NATO , what did Putin say , "I want my countries back "
 

TheTallGuy

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Location
Cambridgeshire
Some silly comments on here , there is no peace deal , Putin wants Ukraine end of , the more he bombs the more hate will build

They should have thought sbout that when they were provoking him courting the west with nato , they would have been better accepting the 15 billion he offerd , not the best but better than this and he bee dead of d age soon enough and pray for more moderate person , taking him on was suicidal .
So if a girl goes out in a short skirt it's her fault for getting raped?
 

Werzle

Member
Location
Midlands
Refusal to establish a no fly zone shows that Nato and the "West" has no intention of getting involved beyond imposing sanctions that just feed the Russian belief that the world is against them.

Militarily Russia can crush/destroy Ukraine whenever it wants. ATM they are being very restrained in their actions. BBC's Bowen has just pointed out that the are NOT bombing the sh*t out of Kiev even though they have the capability, also worth noting that we are not seeing scenes of mass casualties in hospitals like we have recently with the conflicts in the Middle East and Yemen.


The sooner Zelensky accepts reality and negotiates the best peace deal he can get better for all concerned-especially the people of Ukraine.


The supreme irony is that Russia is staging a (relatively) low key invasion and being condemned by the US and the UK, while those two Countries gloried in the "shock & awe" strategy of bombing Iran (military and civilians alike) into submission before invading.
Russia doesnt have to explain or admit soldier deaths like open democratic countries do so hes happy to send in thousands to be killed rather than waste too many missiles.
 
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Werzle

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Location
Midlands
They should have thought sbout that when they were provoking him courting the west with nato , they would have been better accepting the 15 billion he offerd , not the best but better than this and he bee dead of d age soon enough and pray for more moderate person , taking him on was suicidal .
Trouble is your saying they shouldnt have wanted to be a free peacefull open democratic nation . They prefer to be dead than ruled and that is their choice but whos next ? Putin should have been happy with taking back land near the border and kept abit of distance between russia and nato, we could have all lived with that even if ukraine didnt like it. What hes doing now could just be the start and we may look back and wish we fought him on ukraine soil.
 

Hilly

Member
Trouble is your saying they shouldnt have wanted to be a free peacefull open democratic nation . They prefer to be dead than ruled and that is their choice but whos next ? Putin should have been happy with taking back land near the border and kept abit of distance between russia and nato, we could have all lived with that even if ukraine didnt like it. What hes doing now could just be the start and we may look back and wish we fought him on ukraine soil.
Whos next is a joining country thay plays ball with west rather than him , thats whos next , dont entertain the west dont get invaided is the answer until he s no longer leader just play him along until hes gone , grand scheme of things wont be long and pray for more moderate leader ship, their biggest problem will be dealing
With the corruption in russia and looking at the long term corruption is their biggest problem .
 

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